Shep and dog
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The question then becomes do you keep and 100 and make £100 ahead or do you keep a 1000 and make £50 ? I would always choose the Latter
Finished weight lowered,
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The question then becomes do you keep and 100 and make £100 ahead or do you keep a 1000 and make £50 ? I would always choose the Latter
One thing that hasn’t been said,by reducing the dead weight is this going to be a cap on what a suckler cow can earn from its calf.Are the smaller type bulls going to be used to get away from big boned animals that grow to over 400kg dead.Are these larger types going to finish with enough flesh on them at lower weights.More important has someone put some cement in the goal posts to stop them moving any more.
Once we all go down the route of smaller cattle they will want bigger cattle, its the game. If i had listened to the experts i would of castrated all my single suckled char x bull calves for the last 3 years , fortunatly i didnt and nothing has paid better. I wish i could find a bull that only throws bull calves!
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A few up here are trying AI on their sucklers using sexed semen to try and do just that. Apparently interest in it is also growing in the dairy side, sexing for heifers with a HF bull and bulls with the blue. It’s certainly a way to try and increase revenue from what you’ve already got instead of being pushed to have more to “spread costs”
Too much hassle fetching cows in from the field to Ai atm but if the autumn store heifer trade doesnt improve on the last few years it might be the answer.
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- North Yorkshire
What price difference was there if you don’t mind me asking? £250 ish at a guess
Sell 8-9 mth old weaned single suckled calves during november and last two years hfrs would have been £175-£200 behind the bulls if i had sold them which i didnt . Last two years the buyers for these type of hfrs have slipped away and moved to buying them in the spring at 12-14mths which is a pain because the autumn clear out of everything bar the cows suits my system.
It’s all down to demand, was just the same with the Hoggs in 2017
your dead right about not always following the experts. It is horses for courses a lot of the time.
They don't do they ,about 520 kg stops them around here
capfits
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They didnae ask me either, but then neither did Watts, Kennedy's, or Rennie's.
The facts remain that the supermarkets have much more knowledge of what sells and at what price points than you and I.
While the abbatoirs, processors and packers will have a much better feel of retail meat yield on a given carcass than you can imagine.
Either way produce what they are looking for, or YOU go out and create that new market for the heavy cattle.
My point was that often they introduce changes to the spec/ grid with what seems to be on a whim. Farmers can’t just switch things around in a week or a month.it takes time. iirc when the horse meat scandal was on it didn’t matter about size.
Hey ho it’s a good job Watts Kennedy’s and Rennie’s are still going.
Hey ho it’s a good job Watts Kennedy’s and Rennie’s are still going.
Of course not, and they should give us more notice, 12 months at least, but then I've known about them wanting to reduce carcase weights for years. I've been to the producer meetings and listened...
Northeastfarmer
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Where’s around here