Ford 4100 loader

[Thomas5060]

Hi folks,
Wanting to put a front loader on our 4100, plenty of loaders around ro suit 4600 etc, just wondering if it is possible/ practical to covert brackets from a 4600 to a 4100. Has anyone done it before? Or from a 4000 to 3000 etc

 

[jf850]

Hi folks,
Wanting to put a front loader on our 4100, plenty of loaders around ro suit 4600 etc, just wondering if it is possible/ practical to covert brackets from a 4600 to a 4100. Has anyone done it before? Or from a 4000 to 3000 etc

An uncle of mine bought a new Ford cabbed 4100 in early March 1976.
It never had a loader , nor would I wish to fit a loader on a 41.
It often broke bolts in the front axle , where you could adjust for various row crop widths.
Reminded me of those 17 yr old girls you see wearing 4 inch heels . Like a baby giraffe, you think its going to go head over heels . They sat higher at the back .

The 3000/3600 brackets would be the right length and fit the front bolt holes. How would they fit at the bell housing ?

 

[glasshouse]

Hi folks,
Wanting to put a front loader on our 4100, plenty of loaders around ro suit 4600 etc, just wondering if it is possible/ practical to covert brackets from a 4600 to a 4100. Has anyone done it before? Or from a 4000 to 3000 etc

You cant put a loader on that, it has no safety frame

 

[Thomas5060]

An uncle of mine bought a new Ford cabbed 4100 in early March 1976.
It never had a loader , nor would I wish to fit a loader on a 41.
It often broke bolts in the front axle , where you could adjust for various row crop widths.
Reminded me of those 17 yr old girls you see wearing 4 inch heels . Like a baby giraffe, you think its going to go head over heels . They sat higher at the back .

The 3000/3600 brackets would be the right length and fit the front bolt holes. How would they fit at the bell housing ?

It will only be for dunging out, currently usinh a rear loader and just want something on front instead.
There are the standard bell housing bolt holes, that's not fhe problem, the problem is the front as there is no tombstone bolt holes

 

[Mur Huwcun]

IIRC a heavy plate is bolted across the tombstone to take the brackets, two sets went in the scrap here few years ago off a 4100 and 3910. Both came with shagged front axles needing the pivot hole in casting bored out and sleeved, new stub axles, king pin kits, all trackrod ends and the stay bars cut and rewelded back straight!!! I’ll have a look through some photos on work computer

 

[Boohoo]

It will only be for dunging out, currently usinh a rear loader and just want something on front instead.
There are the standard bell housing bolt holes, that's not fhe problem, the problem is the front as there is no tombstone bolt holes

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Going by this 36 you need to wrap the tractor up in half a ton of steel and make it unusable for other jobs

 

[jf850]

It will only be for dunging out, currently usinh a rear loader and just want something on front instead.
There are the standard bell housing bolt holes, that's not fhe problem, the problem is the front as there is no tombstone bolt holes

Old type Quicke, eg 2000 , 2030 etc brackets were attached using the bolt holes that are used for bolting the engine block to the front tombstone. You have to get longer bolts , as the bracket is over an inch thick from memory.

I would put as light and short a loader on it as you can get away with for your own needs. An early Quicke would be ideal .
The Ford loader in the link , were a heavy lump , a load in themselves , and make the tractor very cumbersome for other work.

The back loader would suit the tractor better really. But I suppose you have to take it off to use the tractor at anything else is your issue?

 

[timff]

We had a 1971 Ford 3000 with the Ford cab and Ford loader. Agree with Boohoo in that it had steel everywhere at the front, weighed a ton and without PAS it was a dog to drive. Oh, and the Ford cab clatter....

 

[Thomas5060]

Old type Quicke, eg 2000 , 2030 etc brackets were attached using the bolt holes that are used for bolting the engine block to the front tombstone. You have to get longer bolts , as the bracket is over an inch thick from memory.

I would put as light and short a loader on it as you can get away with for your own needs. An early Quicke would be ideal .
The Ford loader in the link , were a heavy lump , a load in themselves , and make the tractor very cumbersome for other work.

The back loader would suit the tractor better really. But I suppose you have to take it off to use the tractor at anything else is your issue?

Hit the nail on the head, the 4100 is our yard tractor as it suits our small yard and sheds best, but its a pain in the arse to have to take off the back loader to move a trailer or to use the circular saw.

We refurbed the front axle and fitted new rims and tyres so arent worried about it, especially with the kind of work it will be doing. Will be fitting power steering aswell

Have seen a few older quickes about but they are always to suit 46 etc, reckoned if it wasnt too big a job i could convert one to suit

 

[SuperTwo]

What's the difference between a 4100 and a 3000?
Ive a set of quicke brackets off a 3000 that I can take a photo of this evening if you like?
Unfortunately I sold them last week

 

[Thomas5060]

What's the difference between a 4100 and a 3000?
Ive a set of quicke brackets off a 3000 that I can take a photo of this evening if you like?
Unfortunately I sold them last week

A 4100 is a 3600 front end and a 4600 back end, also engine is uprated to 52hp.
Yes that would be appreciated thank you

 

[timff]

Thomas your 41 is a bit of a bitsa I reckon? They were normally sold with square mudguards like the 46 for the Fieco cab. Yours also has no foot throttle, and what's the angled steel thing next to the brake pedal? Just curious...

 

[Thomas5060]

Thomas your 41 is a bit of a bitsa I reckon? They were normally sold with square mudguards like the 46 for the Fieco cab. Yours also has no foot throttle, and what's the angled steel thing next to the brake pedal? Just curious...

It came with a ford cab, which we removed for access, both into sheds and for my dad to get on it easier. Foot throttle linkage was missing when we got it. The angled steel is part of a handbrake assembly dad made to make it easier for him to stop around the yard, on the other side there is a modified step and a crutch holder for him aswell

 

[jf850]

Hit the nail on the head, the 4100 is our yard tractor as it suits our small yard and sheds best, but its a pain in the arse to have to take off the back loader to move a trailer or to use the circular saw.

We refurbed the front axle and fitted new rims and tyres so arent worried about it, especially with the kind of work it will be doing. Will be fitting power steering aswell

Have seen a few older quickes about but they are always to suit 46 etc, reckoned if it wasnt too big a job i could convert one to suit

We had a McKenna rear loader with silage grab from new in 1988 . It was on a Ford 5600 for 10 years and that was the only tractor for 4 years , until it was joinedb by a 165. Often pulled an 11 x 7 tipper trailer with loader still attached .
Very handy manouverablecombination around a cramped.yard.
A very ma

 

[SuperTwo]

 

[Thomas5060]

Excellent thank you. Should br handy enough to sort something

 

[Rascal]

We had a new 4100 with Quickie 2030 loader in the seventies. It was the first tractor i saw with a Bubble Q cab! AS JF850 said we had lots of trouble with the front axle, Bolts Breaking, Sockets from the stabilizer arms breaking and we also had stub axles break. We parted company when it ripped a chunk out of the clutch bell housing where the bracket attached!!
Be a good idea to see if a 4000 / 4600 axle fits..

 

[Mur Huwcun]

We had a new 4100 with Quickie 2030 loader in the seventies. It was the first tractor i saw with a Bubble Q cab! AS JF850 said we had lots of trouble with the front axle, Bolts Breaking, Sockets from the stabilizer arms breaking and we also had stub axles break. We parted company when it ripped a chunk out of the clutch bell housing where the bracket attached!!
Be a good idea to see if a 4000 / 4600 axle fits..

It will bolt straight on with the tombstone, unfortunately steering box and linkages and power steering is different as is the front cowling!!!

 

[Thomas5060]

It will bolt straight on with the tombstone, unfortunately steering box and linkages and power steering is different as is the front cowling!!!

Would be easier just to change the tractor

 

[KennyO]

Would be easier just to change the tractor

Easy to spend someone elses money but what about a 2wd highway spec tractor like an old MF30 or 40.
Solid loader and torque converter. Possibly not that dear?