Forest fukup

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slackjawedyokel

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Mixed Farmer
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Northumberland
Brewdog is kind of a weird company (and one that I exercise my small amount of power as a consumer against).
It likes to portray itself as a modern, right-on, Wokey sort of business but it has had failings in so many areas over the years. Employees have said it has a ‘toxic culture’ and ‘culture of fear’. I suppose the veneer of environmentalism etc plays well to the unknowing urban majority, but the reality can be very different (ie the nearly dead ‘forest’).
Should be made to replant properly at their own expense - not via further greenwash fundraising!
 

Goweresque

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North Wilts
Brewdog is kind of a weird company (and one that I exercise my small amount of power as a consumer against).
It likes to portray itself as a modern, right-on, Wokey sort of business but it has had failings in so many areas over the years. Employees have said it has a ‘toxic culture’ and ‘culture of fear’. I suppose the veneer of environmentalism etc plays well to the unknowing urban majority, but the reality can be very different (ie the nearly dead ‘forest’).
Should be made to replant properly at their own expense - not via further greenwash fundraising!

I've said for some time that now there is serious money in the whole 'green' sphere that bad actors will start to move in on it purely as a money making ploy. Create a scam that purports to be 'saving the planet', and clean up. Big business is definitely using green washing just to polish its public image. The reality of what they are doing on the ground is irrelevant. As long as they've convinced the public they are 'doing good' then they are, from their perspective. And the public buy it, because it makes them feel better. 'Yes I am flying thousands of miles just to go on holiday, but the airline do offsetting so thats OK then' Its the perfect scam really, the scammer gets to make money, and the scammee gets to feel good about being scammed. Everybody wins!
 

oil barron

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Aberdeenshire
I've said for some time that now there is serious money in the whole 'green' sphere that bad actors will start to move in on it purely as a money making ploy. Create a scam that purports to be 'saving the planet', and clean up. Big business is definitely using green washing just to polish its public image. The reality of what they are doing on the ground is irrelevant. As long as they've convinced the public they are 'doing good' then they are, from their perspective. And the public buy it, because it makes them feel better. 'Yes I am flying thousands of miles just to go on holiday, but the airline do offsetting so thats OK then' Its the perfect scam really, the scammer gets to make money, and the scammee gets to feel good about being scammed. Everybody wins!
It’s got nothing to do with the public. They are hoping to go public on the FTSE, so trying to get an ESG score and get in to ESG funds. It’s basically the model Rishi has laid out for Uk to get carbon negative.
 

robs1

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I've said for some time that now there is serious money in the whole 'green' sphere that bad actors will start to move in on it purely as a money making ploy. Create a scam that purports to be 'saving the planet', and clean up. Big business is definitely using green washing just to polish its public image. The reality of what they are doing on the ground is irrelevant. As long as they've convinced the public they are 'doing good' then they are, from their perspective. And the public buy it, because it makes them feel better. 'Yes I am flying thousands of miles just to go on holiday, but the airline do offsetting so thats OK then' Its the perfect scam really, the scammer gets to make money, and the scammee gets to feel good about being scammed. Everybody wins!
Except the planet, that's if the planet needs saving and if we are the main problem .
I wonder how long the government will take to say all the sfi payments on bird food plots, corners, scrub areas and hedges have to have a carbon calculation done and the government will then use that carbon sequestration to offset its carbon footprint?
 

crashbox

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Livestock Farmer
Is Brewdog worse than the multi-national brew corps that churn out most beer? E.g. Budweiser

I don't know.

But I don't think Brew Dog's beer is anything special, and will continue to stick to local ale. Trees or no trees.
 
Location
Suffolk
There’s ‘planting’. Done by professionals who have a skill-set learned over many years.
Then there is ‘planting’ done by someone on minimum wage with no skill or care. What’s so difficult about poking a small stick in the ground?
There’s ‘beating-up’ done at the landowners cost.
I wonder whether BD actually cared about who did the planting but poorly carried out will result in a hefty bill which could have paid for skilled people. Pay cheap, pay twice.
Simply IMO🙁
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Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
Except the planet, that's if the planet needs saving and if we are the main problem .
I wonder how long the government will take to say all the sfi payments on bird food plots, corners, scrub areas and hedges have to have a carbon calculation done and the government will then use that carbon sequestration to offset its carbon footprint?
I believe the Welsh Assembly want to gain all sorts of data from farming with their sustainable farming scheme. And as Kier said, Wales is the blueprint for what we will do in England!
 

Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
Is Brewdog worse than the multi-national brew corps that churn out most beer? E.g. Budweiser

I don't know.

But I don't think Brew Dog's beer is anything special, and will continue to stick to local ale. Trees or no trees.
Well, at least as far as I am aware Brewdog don't think their customers are red neck bigots who they would rather do without!


but their profits still went up!!

 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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Expanded and improved Sustainable Farming Incentive offer for farmers published

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Expanded Sustainable Farming Incentive offer from July will give the sector a clear path forward and boost farm business resilience.

From: Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs and The Rt Hon Sir Mark Spencer MP Published21 May 2024

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Full details of the expanded and improved Sustainable Farming Incentive (SFI) offer available to farmers from July have been published by the...
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