Grass ley rent

[TractorTom.]

What are people paying for grass rent. Had the local dairy approach me looking for an extra bit of silage ground for the next 3 years. He's going to establish and maintain but we will do the ground works. We're midlands based and had a bit of black grass in the past so will help us out a bit as well. Looking to be reasonable considering the black grass.

 

[Surgery]

What are people paying for grass rent. Had the local dairy approach me looking for an extra bit of silage ground for the next 3 years. He's going to establish and maintain but we will do the ground works. We're midlands based and had a bit of black grass in the past so will help us out a bit as well. Looking to be reasonable considering the black grass.

Sorry for the comment but I’m sure a few land agents will catch on to any prices put up , maybe get folk to pm you instead might save a few questions and answers for a few folk.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

What are people paying for grass rent. Had the local dairy approach me looking for an extra bit of silage ground for the next 3 years. He's going to establish and maintain but we will do the ground works. We're midlands based and had a bit of black grass in the past so will help us out a bit as well. Looking to be reasonable considering the black grass.

Normal rate around here £120 to £150 acre . But establishment cost may be taken of that if the short term tenant is paying ,but not sure about that if its a short term ley

 

[Porkchops57]

is it with the BPS or just the grass license?

 

[TractorTom.]

is it with the BPS or just the grass license?

Just the grass licence although I suppose I will have take into account the decrease in BPS. Estimations I've seen are from current £92/acre to £49/acre in 2024.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Just the grass licence although I suppose I will have take into account the decrease in BPS. Estimations I've seen are from current £92/acre to £49/acre in 2024.

BPS is irrelevant. Most lets I know have never claimed it as short term lets, when NVZs kick it then rented grass lets will go up in value

 

[cattow]

£120 - £150 maize
£60 - £90 grass

 

[Tarw Coch]

£120 - £150 maize
£60 - £90 grass

Location location location
Around here, young established silage leys £200 acre
Good maize ground £250 acre
No bps included

 

[cattow]

Location location location
Around here, young established silage leys £200 acre
Good maize ground £250 acre
No bps included

£250 buys standing maize 1 year in 3 round here

 

[DRC]

Location location location
Around here, young established silage leys £200 acre
Good maize ground £250 acre
No bps included

Is that for 2/3 cuts or the season. Does it include replacing the P and K with slurry.

 

[DRC]

£250 buys standing maize 1 year in 3 round here

Costs much more than that to grow it.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Is that for 2/3 cuts or the season. Does it include replacing the P and K with slurry.

They do replace yes. Most are on long term agreements around here so they won't want to rape the land

 

[Tarw Coch]

Is that for 2/3 cuts or the season. Does it include replacing the P and K with slurry.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing as I don’t know the details just headline figures.
I’d say they’re probably looking after it at that

 

[DRC]

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing as I don’t know the details just headline figures.
I’d say they’re probably looking after it at that

Always struggle to sell grass or silage around here. Maize is a different thing.
Grass let’s would be a good break on heavier land if it paid.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Always struggle to sell grass or silage around here. Maize is a different thing.
Grass let’s would be a good break on heavier land if it paid.

You need to approach some big dairy farms if you have any local. But the answer is probably in your reply. Maize , we can't grow it in this area so they grow grass instead

 

[DRC]

You need to approach some big dairy farms if you have any local. But the answer is probably in your reply. Maize , we can't grow it in this area so they grow grass instead

I’ve asked and get the same response . Already grow maize and sell to the biggest dairy farm in our area .

 

[som farmer]

we had an agreement with arable farmer, 1 year leys, £300/acre, for that, he planted the field, supplied enough fert for 2 cuts, and would spread our own, if we took it there. There was no question about ley establishment, it was done properly, and certainly yielded, also deduction for slurry/fym. It sounds horrendous, but we were getting 4 good cuts, 30 tonne fresh weight/acre. He did it to control blackgrass, which didn't work, as you really need 2 yrs. So it ended.
Two blocks of land locally out for tender, 1st, we know someone bid £186, no sfp, arable, and didn't get. The second, tenders invited for £280/acre + 300ish acres, no sfp, buildings, inc wanked out parlour, by separate arrangement. Several going hard for it though, the 280, will be exceeded. We have taken on a block of land, 50 odd acres for £100, we didn't argue, but we thought we had some more, which would have reduced it to £75, that failed to happen.