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Have some of that Chris Packham

Discussion in 'Agricultural Matters' started by Yosemite Sam, Oct 6, 2018.

  1. Fallowfield

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    A classic example of what happens when ignorant conservationists get involved.[/QUOTE]


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    Hedgehogs were introduced to Uist by gardeners to try to control slugs.

    Nothing to do with conservationists.
     
  2. Fallowfield

    Fallowfield Member


    With all due respect you might want to read up a bit on how eco systems work.
     

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    Hedgehogs were introduced to Uist by gardeners to try to control slugs.

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    Conservationists tried to cull them though. Hedgehogs are an endangered species.
     
  4. Fallowfield

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    In my experience the more remote and undisturbed an area is the more likely you are to see a badger during daylight hours, which I suppose makes sense.

    This is an interesting article on the effect of human disturbance on the hours that animals keep.


    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...ns-making-mammals-nocturnal-behavior-ecology/
     
  5. Fallowfield

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    Conservationists tried to cull them though. Hedgehogs are an endangered species.[/QUOTE]


    What are you on about?

    Hedgehogs are not native there. They were introduced and caused havoc. They have to be culled. Uist isn't a zoo or a wildlife park or a rehabilitation centre for homeless hedgehogs.
     

  6. What are you on about?

    Hedgehogs are not native there. They were introduced and caused havoc. They have to be culled. Uist isn't a zoo or a wildlife park or a rehabilitation centre for homeless hedgehogs.[/QUOTE]
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    So you want to kill one endangered species to protect another, whilst ignoring the fact badgers are killing off hedgehogs in their natural habitat ?
     
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  7. Fallowfield

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    The effects of the growth in popularity of direct drilling, and the concomitant lack of ploughing, is bound to have an effect on farmland birds.

    Whether it's positive or negative or a bit of both remains to be seen.

    As ever though it's the rate of change that will be the problem, as things tend to happen too quickly for wildlife to adapt their behaviour to suit the changed environment.
     
  8. Fallowfield

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    So you want to kill one endangered species to protect another, whilst ignoring the fact badgers are killing off hedgehogs in their natural habitat ?[/QUOTE]


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    I'm sorry, but someone has to say this.

    You are clueless.

    Lets just leave it at that.
     

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    I'm sorry, but someone has to say this.

    You are clueless.

    Lets just leave it at that.[/QUOTE]

    Pot and kettle spring to mind.:rolleyes:
     
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    I'm sorry, but someone has to say this.

    You are clueless.

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    Maybe the government should introduce some rules for ignorant conservationists ?:ROFLMAO:
     
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    My work here is done......:woot::LOL:
     
  12. Cowabunga

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    Location:
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    In 1973 there were low but sustainable numbers of badgers, Any excess that made a nuisance of themselves were culled to keep the population steady.
    They do not breed like rabbits so, slowly, over the next ten years their population grew, The more their population grew, the faster the population grew, Until they became a fear pest in the mid 1990's, after the completely unnecessary Badger Act of 1992 [not your claimed 1973] although they were never close to being 'rare', and their population has continued to expand since and the breadth and spread of dreadfully diseased badgers continues to grow. Funny thing is, if farmers were to keep diseased and suffering badgers on purpose, they would be sent to the clink, yet their 'conservationists' seem happy for them to suffer a painful, lingering and horribly drawn out death from tuberculosis, when it could so easily be eradicated as it has been before and is in other countries.

    Just who are the "we'' that puts specific time limits and "any other considerations" on this discussion? It is YOU, to suit your warped agenda while trying to ignore the facts.
    "We" notice that every time you try that kind of thing, and there are no positive things in your agenda whatsoever, you expose yourself to being even more ignorant to more people. Its quite entertaining to watch really. Especially so as you are incapable of even quoting properly in what must be the easiest forum there is to quote accurately.
     
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  13. Raider112

    Raider112 Member

    The Badger Protection Act came in in 1992 so falls within the period we are talking about.
     
  14. Fallowfield

    Fallowfield Member


    1. Badgers have been protected since 1973.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1973/57/enacted

    2. It was you who chose 1975 as a starting point for the period you were discussing, not me.
     
  15. renewablejohn

    renewablejohn Member

    Location:
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    Your ignorance is bliss. There would not be a farmer in the land who would object to the 1973 Act. But then there would not be any diseased badgers around as the act allows for there removal.
     
  16. Macsky

    Macsky Member

    Location:
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    Aye you’d have to read up on it, because such eco systems don’t exist in the farmed British countryside, only within the dreams of people hating sociopaths sporting unhealthy fascinations with various types of predator.

    Your agenda is distinctly anti human, it treats people as if they are completely alien to the environment, and shouldn’t really exist.
     
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  17. Fallowfield

    Fallowfield Member


    If you don't mind me saying so that comment is as irrational as it is intemperate.

    Do you have anger issues?
     
  18. Macsky

    Macsky Member

    Location:
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    Only with those that fit the description.
     
  19. Henarar

    Henarar Member

    Location:
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    I know that people are part of it
     
  20. Henarar

    Henarar Member

    Location:
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    I know that if there are to many disease ridden vermin [badgers in other words] about its nothing but trouble and the bloody things want putting out of their misery
     

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