How’s your OSR looking now

[T Hectares]

I'm thinking a lot of the FB issues are aggravated by nutrition issues, I constantly have high ph Chalk banks wiped out where the rest of the field gets away
This area is a sludge heap, it had everything "wrong" I shakerated the heap out and then levelled it off with a Terrano, there was no moisture at all but its all survived while the rest of this corner was wiped out...

 

[Flat 10]

I'm thinking a lot of the FB issues are aggravated by nutrition issues, I constantly have high ph Chalk banks wiped out where the rest of the field gets away
This area is a sludge heap, it had everything "wrong" I shakerated the heap out and then levelled it off with a Terrano, there was no moisture at all but its all survived while the rest of this corner was wiped out...View attachment 861766View attachment 861767

That's some dramatic evidence.

 

[Hindsight]

I'm thinking a lot of the FB issues are aggravated by nutrition issues, I constantly have high ph Chalk banks wiped out where the rest of the field gets away
This area is a sludge heap, it had everything "wrong" I shakerated the heap out and then levelled it off with a Terrano, there was no moisture at all but its all survived while the rest of this corner was wiped out...View attachment 861766View attachment 861767

I am involved with a farm with an historic use of manure (poulry manures). Most fields receive some manure most years. Phosphate levels are index 4. Crop is established with some cultivation. And while suffering flea beetle damage and some fields or part fields written off it is noticeable that the crop overall in the autumn grew better. Having said that on inpsection the early August sown which looks very good from the road - 60cm tall green bud, once into the crop there is an understory of larval damaged plants reducing quite markedly the number of plants that will grow too flower. Hey ho.

 

[average farmer]

I'm thinking a lot of the FB issues are aggravated by nutrition issues, I constantly have high ph Chalk banks wiped out where the rest of the field gets away
This area is a sludge heap, it had everything "wrong" I shakerated the heap out and then levelled it off with a Terrano, there was no moisture at all but its all survived while the rest of this corner was wiped out...View attachment 861766View attachment 861767

I did something similar to a old sludge heap and nothing grew , rest of the field did but was soon cleared up by fb.

 

[Brisel]

Sewage heap sites always look awful for the first year. Toxic levels of nutrients and soil structure is poor. I can still see stack sites 5 years later as they are considerably taller than the rest of the field and after year 2 show on yield maps too.

 

[T Hectares]

Sewage heap sites always look awful for the first year. Toxic levels of nutrients and soil structure is poor. I can still see stack sites 5 years later as they are considerably taller than the rest of the field and after year 2 show on yield maps too.

It depends how long the heap has been there I think, this was tipped a week before we spread it and its had the opposite effect, the longer they are there, the more nutrients they leach and end up toxic.
I've seen the same anywhere we spread poultry muck, any lump that's fallen off the spreader or any overlap has considerably better Rape than the rest of the field.

 

[Steevo]

All this talk of placing toxic material on land - it's a wonder they don't force them to place a layer of something underneath first rather than contaminating the topsoil.

 

[Brisel]

It depends how long the heap has been there I think, this was tipped a week before we spread it and its had the opposite effect, the longer they are there, the more nutrients they leach and end up toxic.
I've seen the same anywhere we spread poultry muck, any lump that's fallen off the spreader or any overlap has considerably better Rape than the rest of the field.

Isn’t that just a bigger dollop of N improving the crop growth? Just playing devil's advocate.

 

[T Hectares]

Isn’t that just a bigger dollop of N improving the crop growth? Just playing devil's advocate.

It's a massive dose of N and P, much more than is legal to apply, which is the problem !!

 

[T Hectares]

All this talk of placing toxic material on land - it's a wonder they don't force them to place a layer of something underneath first rather than contaminating the topsoil.

I have the same from my layer muck heaps...

 

[Laggard]

350kg/ha Doubletop on today.

 

[Brisel]

350kg/ha Doubletop on today.View attachment 861786

Have you got plans for a PGR on that? I know I was against an autumn one but IMO that needs one soon.

 

[Laggard]

Have you got plans for a PGR on that? I know I was against an autumn one but IMO that needs one soon.

Yes I’m reluctantly going to give it some Caryx.

 

[ajd132]

got some n on our rape the last couple days. This is the last bit I drilled on 11th of August.

 

[CORK]

Second N application yesterday. DK Expansion.

Keeping back 40kg N for grain fill.

Low plant population (low 20’s/m2) but they’re strong and healthy.
Will get a Proline/Caramba mix when weather warms a bit.

 

[Rich Beach]

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got some n on our rape the last couple days. This is the last bit I drilled on 11th of August.

AJD132. Don't want to worry you too much but have you cut any stems open to see if there is CSFB larvae. It looks like your rape is affected quite badly.

 

[Vader]

Looking at those pictures just ruined my night
Going to decide tomorrow if to rip up our last piece of rape.
Never had a disaster like this year.
It just never got going and slowly died off.

Green cover mustards were same, hardly grew and did not even have to top them before ploughing them in, where normally masses of green.

 

[ajd132]

AJD132. Don't want to worry you too much but have you cut any stems open to see if there is CSFB larvae. It looks like your rape is affected quite badly.

Cut lots open for months now, there is a few but it is definitely not too bad. Why do you think it’s been affected badly. Here’s some drilled a week earlier.

 

[Rich Beach]

Cut lots open for months now, there is a few but it is definitely not too bad. Why do you think it’s been affected badly. Here’s some drilled a week earlier. View attachment 862221

The rape in this picture looks much less affected. The first picture looks like it isn't branching due to CSFB damage. I'm speaking from personal experience of crops of rape that I've grown that look like that at start of stem extension & have been riddled with larvae.

 

[ajd132]

The rape in this picture looks much less affected. The first picture looks like it isn't branching due to CSFB damage. I'm speaking from personal experience of crops of rape that I've grown that look like that at start of stem extension & have been riddled with larvae.

That’s fair, it’s not got any more than the first pic but the week to ten days between drilling has made a difference. If anything it has started running up quite quickly in the last week.