How many TFF members would support something like this?

[Barleycorn]

an arable farm can't (yet) but there is a difference between carbon footprint of various methods - conservation ag approach ( minimal soil disturbance, max diversity and constant ground cover) offer a lot of positive to this climate debate. In the future biological reduction of synthetic input use and perennial crops maybe as well


Grass land / hill farms can achieve nett zero and even then sell offset to intense arable maybe like the root or veg guys - its a complex but exciting and potentially very profitable new area for us all that could turn us from the environmental bad guys in to the heroes here

In the meantime although I appalled Minnette Batters optimistic commitment to nett zero by 2040 I can't help think they don't really understand what change that will require and certainly haven't told their members that likely means no cultivation or bagged N for starters !

I agree, hope this comes up in the glyphosate debate.

 

[nelly55]

What about a student who is doing media studies,we need to connect to the public.At the moment all the public see is farmers moaning,farmers been blamed .We need to put across that its peoples livehood ,their passion,we do care .From family farms that have put everything into their farm,work for very little but are proud.To the large farms who employ staff again these are people with families ,people who are proud to produce food.Show we are human ,show how much of our lives go into our work.We want to produce quality food,but just like life it’s at a cost,something we have no control over.Its not about the largest farm,the newest machinery ,poshish house or car it’s about the people who 24/7 think about their livestock,their land,their neighbourhood.We do care but the public need to see us all as a human being just like them.Sorry it flipping raining again,

 

[ollie989898]

We have loads of such contacts, doesn't cost a lot to get quite professional stuff done these days. the team here is behind a lot more ag promotion on other channels (not just digital) that you probably realize. We have the required skill sets and contacts for sure, cash and time is what we lack

I am not suggesting TFF should get involved whatsoever as I assumed the above was already the case. A combined effort coordinated by someone with the time and skills would be best in my view. I have no skills whatsoever in video editing or production but I would throw a few quid at it if money helped.

 

[ollie989898]

an arable farm can't (yet) but there is a difference between carbon footprint of various methods - conservation ag approach ( minimal soil disturbance, max diversity and constant ground cover) offer a lot of positive to this climate debate. In the future biological reduction of synthetic input use and perennial crops maybe as well


Grass land / hill farms can achieve nett zero and even then sell offset to intense arable maybe like the root or veg guys - its a complex but exciting and potentially very profitable new area for us all that could turn us from the environmental bad guys in to the heroes here

In the meantime although I appalled Minnette Batters optimistic commitment to nett zero by 2040 I can't help think they don't really understand what change that will require and certainly haven't told their members that likely means no cultivation or bagged N for starters !

Anyone from any organisation can say whatever they like- talk is extremely cheap but to suggest net zero by 2040 means someone has an extraordinary insight or understanding of the facts that is beyond the vast majority of us who recognise that emissions from agriculture is a hugely complex subject and one that will take some pretty joined-up thinking to tackle.

 

[bovrill]

I'm appalled at Minnette Batters' optimistic commitment to net zero by 2040. I can't help think they don't really understand what change that will require, and certainly haven't told their members that likely means no cultivation or bagged N for starters!

And certainly no sending straw off to power stations to get burnt!

 

[ollie989898]

And certainly no sending straw off to power stations to get burnt!

Do we know that for certain though??

 

[bovrill]

Do we know that for certain though??

Incorporating straw is putting carbon back into the soil, whether directly from the combine chopper, or indirectly through dung. A large amount drawn from the air by the plants, and locked up.
Sending that straw off for burning means that it's gone, apart from a bit of ash, and modern power stations pride themselves on how little of that they produce.
Unless of course the clever calculators of the carbon scammers can work out a way that it doesn't! I think the word "renewable" put into their sums makes things add up differently!

 

[ollie989898]

Incorporating straw is putting carbon back into the soil, whether directly from the combine chopper, or indirectly through dung. A large amount drawn from the air by the plants, and locked up.
Sending that straw off for burning means that it's gone, apart from a bit of ash, and modern power stations pride themselves on how little of that they produce.
Unless of course the clever calculators of the carbon scammers can work out a way that it doesn't! I think the word "renewable" put into their sums makes things add up differently!

A lot of that organic matter might rot though and end up back in the atmosphere, whats wrong with burning something that came from the air anyway?

 

[Chae1]

I would contribute. Have been thinking of suggesting something similar. Great idea.

 

[Lazy Eric]

What happened to farmers for action?? Haven’t heard from them for a while.

 

[Storeman]

Always happy to do a bit of video editing if required

 

[Hilly]

I would contribute.

 

[___\0/___]

The QMS Meat with integrity campaign has just started. Some really good ideas. Media clips, radio ads etc well worth a look.

 

[capfits]

We need, we need, we need.
Nope what is required is action on a continuous basis from you footpath hating, get off my land folk to open your farms up to the general public and tell them what you really do and how as an industry we nurture not only the food but the communities that we live in. Give opportunity to young people to work and learn skills.
We host local school at lambing for example, and I have a friend putting a glass floored viewing area in his laying hens shed and pack house. Engage not denegrate.
Little bursts of activity are are that little play a longer game to maintain engagement.

 

[Cheesehead]

The farmer in the film @hilljay45 on Instagram just had his farm vandalized with his 8something John Deere driven into the back/side of their flat bed lorry. The difference that the sheriff from what it sounds like has already caught the person responsible.

 

[gone up the hill]

OK, so many if us in here are fed up with the slating agriculture is getting from, what seems like, all sides and the apparent lack of positive stuff in reply from the ADHB, NFU, etc.

How many people on TFF would be prepared to put their money where their mouth is and chip in, say, £100 to get something along the lines of this made about British Agriculture?.....

@bovrill posted this on another thread last night and, as he said, it's a bit too sentimental and Americanised for the UK but I'm sure it's not beyond the wit of somebody on here to be able to come up with something with the same message but more relevant to our situation.

We're all talking the talk but who, in the words of the Dragon's Den, is in?

Only if the AHDB levy is scrapped!

Not enough margin in the job to be paying two sets of people to be doing the same job these days!

 

[fredf]

I would chip in with £100. Guy Smith on BBC Breakfast TV had some good points this morning.

Tom

 

[yellowbelly]

Only if the AHDB levy is scrapped!

We're not talking about that much money - FFS, if we had everybody's levy money we could make half a dozen full length feature films

Not enough margin in the job to be paying two sets of people to be doing the same job these days!

If we don't do something soon there won't be a job at all, let alone a margin in it.

 

[Dry Rot]

Plenty of independent film producers out there. This is Scotland's directory and I expect there's an equivalent south of the border:

Scotland's Film & TV industry directory

From its inception over 40 years ago, Film Bang has developed into the definitive source of information, listing Production Companies, Facilities and Technicians.

www.filmbang.com

Use students and amateurs and the likelihood is you'll get a product that is immature and amateurish. This is not as easy as it looks.

I was impressed by the documentary, "Pedigree Dogs Exposed", probably because it is something I am passionate about, but it certainly stirred the pot and got people talking. I wonder who paid for that?

Pedigree Dogs Exposed - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[gone up the hill]

We're not talking about that much money - FFS, if we had everybody's levy money we could make half a dozen full length feature films

If we don't do something soon there won't be a job at all, let alone a margin in it.

Trouble is it all adds up!

Rather than pay twice we should be demanding answers from the likes of Adam Quinney who is the beef and lamb board chairman on WHY they are NOT advertising British farm assured beef and lamb in the home market!!

And yes they are going to do a very small lamb add campaign but with very poor pictures of cooked lamb and most of this advertising is aimed at the wrong market and does NOT feature either that the targeted audience should buy British farm assured lamb.

No surprise thou as every AHDB top bod I have spoken to have always said that the aim of their advertising in the home market is to get people buying lamb, it doesn't matter if its British or imported lamb as long as they buy lamb! ( and that is the very words they used!! )

So basically British levy payers are paying to promote our direct competitors lamb products!