Hydro

[Energyproduction]

I am looking for any offgrid oppertunity for a good stream that can produce hydro energy 24/7 upwards of 1.5 MW to develop and ustilise undre lease, if you think that you have a good stream or river running through your land that can be adapted for this the please message me.

 

[Watermiller]

I have one with legal water rights... But it's in France!

 

[Macsky]

What will you do with 1.5MW without a grid connection?

 

[Energyproduction]

Unfortunately I am unable to say as it's commercially sensitive

 

[Macsky]

Give us a clue

 

[Macsky]

Is it legally sensitive?

 

[Exfarmer]

Bitcoin mining?

 

[daveydiesel1]

What is the legalities of puttin in a hydro plant for own use. Also what size of machine would be needed to power a milkin parlour and house? What kinda flow would be required for this?

 

[Macsky]

Well if a stream can produce 1.5MW, I think the downspout on your shed should power your parlour no probs

 

[Exfarmer]

What is the legalities of puttin in a hydro plant for own use. Also what size of machine would be needed to power a milkin parlour and house? What kinda flow would be required for this?

You will need permission from your version of the EA.
you need to work out how much power you are using then you will know what size turbine you need. This will then dictate volume and fall required
roughly speaking a flow rate of 600 litres a minute falling 10 metres would give a possible 8Kw
in theory it should produce 10 Kw but is never going to achieve 100% conversion
if the flow is half the output will be half and if the fall is half again the output is half

 

[Doing it for the kids]

In my experience, a ‘big‘ water flow to the eye will barely run a light bulb.
I got all excited once and measured the flow and volume and was amazed how poor the results.

 

[daveydiesel1]

In my experience, a ‘big‘ water flow to the eye will barely run a light bulb.
I got all excited once and measured the flow and volume and was amazed how poor the results.

How do u measure flow?

 

[Exfarmer]

You will need to dam the stream and force it through a pipe then measure the out put of the pipe by filling something like a bucket or an IBC checking how long it takes.
so a 12 litre bucket filled in 3 seconds is 240 litres per minute
then work out how much fall you can get from your dam to the site of a turbine
remember you must have a reasonably large pipe to prevent friction losses in your flow.

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

You'll need huge flows for 1.5MW.

Getting EA approval anywhere in England will be your biggest hurdle.

You won't be able the use the whole flow either as the eel directive will have to be compiled with.

 

[daveydiesel1]

You will need to dam the stream and force it through a pipe then measure the out put of the pipe by filling something like a bucket or an IBC checking how long it takes.
so a 12 litre bucket filled in 3 seconds is 240 litres per minute
then work out how much fall you can get from your dam to the site of a turbine
remember you must have a reasonably large pipe to prevent friction losses in your flow.

How much power roughly required to run a 10 swing over parlour and dwelling house? Why is it hard to get approval? Sure its green energy and not destroyin the land where its goin or anythin

 

[Y Fan Wen]

The way I say it is 1 cuft per second and 20 feet of fall has the potential for 1kw.
Size the pipe to be 4ft/sec or less.
Why is it hard to get approval? This is the 21st century; paper, paper, paper.
My outfit, commissioned 1980, would cost 35-40k today, not including the paper, which didn't exist in the 70s.

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

The way I say it is 1 cuft per second and 20 feet of fall has the potential for 1kw.
Size the pipe to be 4ft/sec or less.
Why is it hard to get approval? This is the 21st century; paper, paper, paper.
My outfit, commissioned 1980, would cost 35-40k today, not including the paper, which didn't exist in the 70s.

The EA (in England) is obsessed with regaining the ability for all species of fish to migrate back up river to breed, especially salmonids and eels. As a result they are looking to remove or bypass any obstructions they can over time and are very unwilling to approve new barriers to migration on english rivers. For a Hydro scheme to gain consent it would have to include comprehensive details of how fish and eel migration would be facilitated.

As a result very few hydro schemes get approved in England.

 

[Bury the Trash]

The EA (in England) is obsessed with regaining the ability for all species of fish to migrate back up river to breed, especially salmonids and eels. As a result they are looking to remove or bypass any obstructions they can over time and are very unwilling to approve new barriers to migration on english rivers. For a Hydro scheme to gain consent it would have to include comprehensive details of how fish and eel migration would be facilitated.

As a result very few hydro schemes get approved in England.

How is that going to fit with beaver introductions?

 

[Y Fan Wen]

The EA (in England) is obsessed with regaining the ability for all species of fish to migrate back up river to breed, especially salmonids and eels. As a result they are looking to remove or bypass any obstructions they can over time and are very unwilling to approve new barriers to migration on english rivers. For a Hydro scheme to gain consent it would have to include comprehensive details of how fish and eel migration would be facilitated.

As a result very few hydro schemes get approved in England.

And they don't want a single one to get caught up in the machinery.

 

[Y Fan Wen]

How is that going to fit with beaver introductions?

That's ok,it's nature.