Is veganism a religion?

[Muddyroads]

Sacked vegan brings landmark discrimination case

A tribunal will decide for the first time if veganism is a "philosophical belief" akin to a religion.

www.bbc.co.uk

If today’s case is successful, presumably it will be a hate crime to be critical of them in any way?

 

[A1an]

Veganism is a life choice, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[PSQ]

I hope the judge knows the difference between a religion and a cult.

 

[Hfd Cattle]

I would put it in the 'deluded' category with a cult like following

 

[Scribus]

In days of old when we were instructed by our betters that there was only one god things were simple. Whichever church we happened to be born into exploited mankind's innate need to believe in something to their own ends and anything else, apparently, was dodgy. Now with the collapse of the established congregations it's a free for all and I have already posted about the digital orientated belief system that appears to afflict far too many, so why not veganism as well?

 

[Dr. Alkathene]

Having had them screaming at me for the heinous crime of shooting clay pigeons. I think Veganism is a mental illness.

 

[DrDunc]

It's a misplaced belief that eating food and wearing clothing made from petrochemicals is better for the planet

Much like the belief that the world was saved by an ark and pairs of animals, or that there's 72 virgin's waiting for those that blow up the infidels.

So yeah, for all the good it does, it's a religion

I want to see the ignorant twits eat in season vegetables for January in Scotland.

They'll soon be sick of turnips ?

 

[Scribus]

Having had them screaming at me for the heinous crime of shooting clay pigeons. I think Veganism is a mental illness.

That suggests an ignorance about life in general. But then, if you've been bought up with nothing but an X-box and Facebook for company what else is to be expected?

 

[Scholsey]

I hope the judge knows the difference between a religion and a cult.

is there a difference?

 

[Hilly]

Their choice , Shame a lot of them persist on trying to force others to do as they do.

 

[dudders]

Seems clear that veganism is indeed a belief, according to the requirements already established for that definition to be applied by the courts. That's why this guy's recent employers don't dispute it: they sacked him for gross misbehaviour, not his diet. Sounds like he's one of those shouty types always looking to stir up trouble one way or another, so good riddance.

 

[Cowabunga]

Sacked vegan brings landmark discrimination case

A tribunal will decide for the first time if veganism is a "philosophical belief" akin to a religion.

www.bbc.co.uk

If today’s case is successful, presumably it will be a hate crime to be critical of them in any way?

Is it fudge a hate crime! If he wins this, every restaurant, bar or eatery, will be forced to offer a vegan alternative menu. That's just not on. Not just the principle of forcing people to sell something but the botheration of segregation of utensils and things in the kitchen, as if there were not enough rules and regulations to follow already.

You could still be critical of them, just as we are free to criticise the church and religion. However, like all fundamentalist religions they will try and stop criticism in every way they can while continuing to evangelise and convert people using missionaries and every tactic they can dream of. This being one such.

 

[Pilatus]

If veganism becomes classed as a religion,will that mean terrorists will be able to claim their beliefs are a religion, this case does not bode well ,if it goes in their favour.

 

[Scribus]

If veganism becomes classed as a religion,will that mean terrorists will be able to claim their beliefs are a religion, this case does not bode well ,if it goes in their favour.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter

 

[sheepish]

Have you lot been watching too much Worzel Gummage, because there are some world-class straw men being built here.

If today’s case is successful, presumably it will be a hate crime to be critical of them in any way?

No, that's not how UK legislation on religious hatred works.

Is it fudge a hate crime! If he wins this, every restaurant, bar or eatery, will be forced to offer a vegan alternative menu. That's just not on.

How are you making that leap? No restaurant has to offer any sort of special menu to anyone. They can choose to do so if it makes commercial sense.

 

[Cowabunga]

Have you lot been watching too much Worzel Gummage, because there are some world-class straw men being built here.



No, that's not how UK legislation on religious hatred works.



How are you making that leap? No restaurant has to offer any sort of special menu to anyone. They can choose to do so if it makes commercial sense.

Because if they win this, it will surely be illegal to discriminate as it is illegal to discriminate commercially on religious, sexual or race grounds. You can be absolutely certain that they will go for this if they win.

 

[Danllan]

First thing, I'll state that I know little about employment law, that said... this is an employment tribunal, I don't think that any precedent set in one is binding in the Courts as a whole, unless taken up by a judge in them. And... if this were to be accepted as the Claimant hopes, it could and probably would lead to a lot of other relatively 'odd' things being given the same status - that would argue against such a decision. But who knows? Whoever is running the tribunal may be looking to make a name for himself...

 

[Henarar]

Because if they win this, it will surely be illegal to discriminate as it is illegal to discriminate commercially on religious, sexual or race grounds. You can be absolutely certain that they will go for this if they win.

couldn't meat eaters claim the same thing then, making it illegal to have vegan or vegetarian only menus ?

 

[Swarfmonkey]

You can be absolutely certain that they will go for this if they win.

They could try, but all they'd achieve is wasting their time and money. Restaurants aren't forced to offer kosher or halal food, why would they be forced to offer vegan food?,

 

[egbert]

Is no-one else suspicious that this is all a set up?

LACS (the employer) might capitulate, or present a weakened case, allowing the claimant -or whatever he;s called- to win, pegging a little stake in the ground for the veganista movement.

i am very suspicious, ....'of all the employers in all the world.


(and I'm currently whittling the cudgel i referred to in another thread...being bored with rational debate)