Is there more lameness occurring in boughten store lambs. Over the years we are seeing more lambs going lame with our wintering lambs.Able to cure but find we are turning over 30% of each bunch at least ObviouSly buying off many sources mainly through markets.
The warmer weather is a factor probably. We are considering footvax next year what's the cost do you do twice? Is the fact we are dipping all this last 3 years a factor too?Not more just weather conditions making it harder to cure the problem.
Warm and continuously wet makes it almost impossible to clear up.
Needs some dry frosty conditions which we don't get any more.
The warmer weather is a factor probably. We are considering footvax next year what's the cost do you do twice? Is the fact we are dipping all this last 3 years a factor too?
You will find Footvax is too expensive and as most of this will be Scald related not always effective.
Dipping will be an issue.
Seem to remember adding disinfectant or similar to dip baths can help.
I’m buying 2,000 doses on an order of other medicines over £6.5k and I think I had footvax down to 90p/dose? It isn’t worth doing twice even for flock replacements, the old paperwork used to say 1 dose per year.What is the footvax cost? Having lambs lame away from home is a burden,when upright they get fat off grass
Roy Thomas? With order we do similar big orders saves a lot in long run.Did you find anything to help post dipping or is this the norm. It does Talley with our time frame of dipping all and increase in lameness. One footvax we shall tryI’m buying 2,000 doses on an order of other medicines over £6.5k and I think I had footvax down to 90p/dose? It isn’t worth doing twice even for flock replacements, the old paperwork used to say 1 dose per year.
Post dipping lameness used to be a huge issue when we dipped years ago
I agree lambs fit will leave a sensible margin so the cost is acceptable against 3k of sheep on the ground and all the extra work. Dipping tub needs refreshing more often and . Bactierostat added to dip any thoughts or experience?Footvax as around £1 a dose, 2x doses so having nearly 0% lame in my mind is much cheaper than 30% of them being lame, cost of time, treatment and lamb condition has to cost more than £2 a head for prevention
My vet said too footvax twice a year until I was on top of lameness but every 6 months not 2 doses straight away… store lambs will be gone in 6 months so should be sufficient… if you can’t spare £1 a dose in store lambs you must be doing something wrong if that’s your margin IMO…I’m buying 2,000 doses on an order of other medicines over £6.5k and I think I had footvax down to 90p/dose? It isn’t worth doing twice even for flock replacements, the old paperwork used to say 1 dose per year.
Post dipping lameness used to be a huge issue when we dipped years ago
Foot bath once per week until they are gone.
Now that costs a huge amountFoot bath once per week until they are gone.
As @neilo says above!Given the steady spread of CODD, it would be staggering if you didn’t bring in at least some with it when you buy store lambs from all over, which would rapidly infect any naive lambs you also buy in.
If I were buying store lambs in, I would be treating them all as if they have scab, triple resistant worms and CODD. If you manage to avoid those then good luck to you, but it will get you eventually.
I was simply saying there is no need for the 2 doses 4-6 weeks apart unless it’s a really bad problem..My vet said too footvax twice a year until I was on top of lameness but every 6 months not 2 doses straight away… store lambs will be gone in 6 months so should be sufficient… if you can’t spare £1 a dose in store lambs you must be doing something wrong if that’s your margin IMO…
of course if people bred their own ............ , problem in the south is a hell of a lot of stores tend to be the ones with problems or are harder to finish , i know someone not far away big flock had bad codd for years many of his lambs go store , has spent 000s on antibiotics , still cant rid it , another , a few miles away just sold the lot store same reason ,to many fly by nights around the sheep rings last few years , my nightmare having keep near their sheep during winter .Given the steady spread of CODD, it would be staggering if you didn’t bring in at least some with it when you buy store lambs from all over, which would rapidly infect any naive lambs you also buy in.
If I were buying store lambs in, I would be treating them all as if they have scab, triple resistant worms and CODD. If you manage to avoid those then good luck to you, but it will get you eventually.
one dose 1/2 ml works fine (and you get less lumps) in lambs , just be careful where they are vaxed .as some lumps will get you problems on the lineFootvax as around £1 a dose, 2x doses so having nearly 0% lame in my mind is much cheaper than 30% of them being lame, cost of time, treatment and lamb condition has to cost more than £2 a head for prevention
I know a lad that does his weekly but will only keep them 8 weeks he’s not going to start vaccinating them.Posts like that make me glad I don’t buy other people’s problems in. My stores are dumped in a distant field on stubble turnips, moved as needed, and won’t be near handling pens before mid-March.
If I was to buy in, I would endeavour to have issues sorted so that I could treat them the same, even if the initial cost was dearer. Each to their own though.