Massey ferguson 190 baler
- Thread starter HKAGRI1
- Start date
- Location
- Herefordshire
Everyone is moving to 187 bales around here, 120 x 90 gives more options than a 120 x 120 with more density.
what sort of money you talking for one of those?
just over 100k new I would think
- Location
- Herefordshire
no idea, I am just a simple dairy farmer, thought 4x4s were brilliant things but now can’t stand them compared to a 4x3, they stack better, better weights, better on trailers, lorries.
- Location
- Le Veurde, Allier, France 03320
Full Heston bales a waste of time now as said above. Depends how many you want to do but a reasonable baler of either Massey Krone Or possibly New Holland/Case should start from around £30k. I don’t know what your experience is but driving a baler isn’t a job for just anybody. Also be very aware that when they break they can go bang big time and cost a fortune. If you want something with good back up and fully trained staff (because like the baler driver the baler repair man is a bit specialist too) I would suggest your first port of call should be Big Bale South or North (separate companies), you will pay more but get great back up.
Good luck, apart from the finance payments and odd worry about being bankrupted by the machine big baling was one of my favourite jobs!
edit to say all 120x90 machines that are relatively modern should do haylage too, just don’t push them too hard!
Good luck, apart from the finance payments and odd worry about being bankrupted by the machine big baling was one of my favourite jobs!
edit to say all 120x90 machines that are relatively modern should do haylage too, just don’t push them too hard!
- Location
- Huntingdon, UK
You can pull a 190 with 150 hp easily, unless you have very steep hills.
They may be OK for haylage if it's dryish - but if it's wet the stuffer hasn't got enough power and you won't get any top fill.
3ft high bales (MF187s are better). With 150hp you will get slightly better density with a 187 than a 190.
We have a 187 tandem axle in very good nick for sale if you're interested.
Loads to look for, but if you don't know much about them find someone who does and take them. Where in the country are you?
- Location
- Le Veurde, Allier, France 03320
Out of interest how much are you looking for?
- Location
- Huntingdon, UK
Massey Ferguson 187 Cutter
MF187 Chopper and spare blades Tandem steering axle Knotter blower Harvest tech applicator kit Good road tyres Been used this year, can be seen working 95,189 bales Owned since new (2005), only selling as we’ve replace it with another XD Serviced annually by...
www.classifieds.farm
If we don’t sell it we’ll run it again this year.
We pull our 190 with a 7616 Massey 4 cylinder no problem...
You want too check for play in the shaft, the bearing the shaft runs too the shaft, have a look at the stuffer clutch if it’s dogged right up its a good sign it’s had some grief the springs should only have a little bit of threads showing I think the actual measurement of the spring length is 32mm but couldn’t say 100%.... apart from that they’re pretty bomb proof
You want too check for play in the shaft, the bearing the shaft runs too the shaft, have a look at the stuffer clutch if it’s dogged right up its a good sign it’s had some grief the springs should only have a little bit of threads showing I think the actual measurement of the spring length is 32mm but couldn’t say 100%.... apart from that they’re pretty bomb proof
mf7616 is 6 cylinder
6716? 4cyl got nowt to do with it that engines got grunt
Hesston4860s
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- Location
- Nr Lincoln
Axles used to be prone to snapping due the bounce they get on going down the road, I’ve personally seen a couple looking like they’ve been torpedo‘ed with the wheel laid next to em in the road.
Chae1
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
I drive our mf190 and I'm a idiot.
There's loads to go wrong/right on them! I won't even start. Mines a old dog, but think i know most of it now. As most of it has broken, been replaced when ive been pulling it.
I've always used a lwb t7 NH, and i think its a ideal sized tractor for it. Personally i think a tractor with a bit of weights important or they will/could push you about.
I wouldn't want to be baling hay with it unless its in perfect condition. Which it never seems to be here.
@puntabrava s probably forgotten more about these balers than I'll ever know. He had one for sale that looked reasonable a while ago.
Sorry 6716 I meant
I have a nh bb980, which is the same as a mf 190. I’ve had it since 2012 and do about 3000 bales/year. Only straw. It’s done about 55.000 bales now. It cost me about £2000/year on maintenance, most on winter inspection, which i find improve reliability in the season a lot. I run a jd 7830 in front of it. It’s more than enough power, except on steep hills, but i really appreciate the weight so i won’t get pushed around. I have a 3 bale trailer on mine, so loaded it’s about 15 tons hooked to the tractor.
it’s a simple machine that works good once you understand how to drive it. But a mechanic who knows his stuff is crusial. I know of bales with about 100.000 bales on them, with no more problems than i have.
i use the bales for bedding through a teagle and i don’t fancy the new 700 kg 3x4’s as they take much time to get apart, if it’s just a little damp.
In Denmark you can buy a nice one for about £10-12.000 now, as contractors are moving to £150.000 krone 3x4’s so they have some use for their 400 hp slurry tractors at harvest.
it’s a simple machine that works good once you understand how to drive it. But a mechanic who knows his stuff is crusial. I know of bales with about 100.000 bales on them, with no more problems than i have.
i use the bales for bedding through a teagle and i don’t fancy the new 700 kg 3x4’s as they take much time to get apart, if it’s just a little damp.
In Denmark you can buy a nice one for about £10-12.000 now, as contractors are moving to £150.000 krone 3x4’s so they have some use for their 400 hp slurry tractors at harvest.
- Location
- Huntingdon, UK
Your local dealer (BBS) are a very knowledgable lot, I wouldn’t mind buying from them. They might even know the history or lend you a fitter to look over any potential purchase, they’d probably charge a lot though.
Further north you’ve got Nigel and Luke of Nigel Cowlen Engineering in Spalding, and Gary of Bog Bale Services Yorkshire direction, if you can’t get to look at a machine I would happily send them in my place.
Our 187 was advertised for £30k its’s full spec and never wanted for parts. It was advertised last spring though and was used lightly last season.
Further north you’ve got Nigel and Luke of Nigel Cowlen Engineering in Spalding, and Gary of Bog Bale Services Yorkshire direction, if you can’t get to look at a machine I would happily send them in my place.
Our 187 was advertised for £30k its’s full spec and never wanted for parts. It was advertised last spring though and was used lightly last season.
Hi Andrew, thanks for all the advice.
I have already been in touch with big bale south and they have also been helpful they actually had a 190 in recently.
I think 30k is a bit rich for my blood unfortunately. I'm hoping to spend no more then 20 really.
puntabrava
Member
- Location
- Wiltshire
I have a 190 here, you will not find better, sold warranted for 500 bales, very low bale count, supplied new from big bale south.
I insist you go and view the machine at big bale south first tho.
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