Mechanics

[Ask know]

How much percentage increase in horsepower do bring adding turbo charges on no turbo Case IH 5130 ?
I am new member give me push thank you in advance.

 

[colhonk]

In TB turbo days,, about 20%. but that was directly onto the standard engine, your higher up models with turbo will be set up differently.
When I put a TB turbo onto my IH 684, put it on Sewards dyno .................89 hp on thousand shaft , then remembered the pump had been turned up pre turbo so set it back to 80 ish.
Still going .

 

[Timbo]

How much percentage increase in horsepower do bring adding turbo charges on no turbo Case IH 5130 ?
I am new member give me push thank you in advance.

If you add the factory turbo (H1C) to a NA b5.9 Cummins, you can pretty much dial whatever horsepower you want out of them with a 13mm spanner and flatblade screwdriver!

The VE pump will support 180-200hp

The 5150 was 132hp at the end of production - there wouldn't be any running that output!

 

[deleted user 837354]

5150 I used to drive was 150hp+ we reckoned. I'm just not so sure the rest of it was up to a lot more power.

 

[Wellytrack]

Old Mechanical injection pump, no emission control, lighter tractors on smaller tyres and DIN horsepower, proper power.

The manufacturers used to claim about a 20% increase over N/A but is generally pessimistic over all brands.

 

[Timbo]

5150 I used to drive was 150hp+ we reckoned. I'm just not so sure the rest of it was up to a lot more power.

Especially the diff made of plasticine

 

[deleted user 837354]

Especially the diff made of plasticine

MX Maxxum seems to have suffered from the same problem.

 

[Wellytrack]

Especially the diff made of plasticine

Inherited fault. Rabbit compaction famously led to the demise of many a transmission……

 

[Bob lincs]

We had a case IH 1056xl with a TB turbo fitted from new , at just under 100 hrs the engine suffered a catastrophic failure and that was the end of that . We then brought the 1255xl that we should have in the first place.

 

[Wellytrack]

We had a case IH 1056xl with a TB turbo fitted from new , at just under 100 hrs the engine suffered a catastrophic failure and that was the end of that . We then brought the 1255xl that we should have in the first place.

What done in the engine? Shouldn’t have been the Turbo anyway.

 

[Hilly]

I fitted a tb turbo to a 100-9O raised it 28hp iirc , tb turbos were a good turbo.

 

[Bob lincs]

What done in the engine? Shouldn’t have been the Turbo anyway.

I don’t really know what the fault was but there was a lot of knocking and smoke .

 

[MF CI]

Take a perkins A6 354.4 as an example, the turbo variant has an a bigger oil cooler, bigger gudgeon pin, piston cooling jets, different crankshaft hardening process, lower compression for example. That is not to say you can't fit a turbo to a non turbo motor but bear in mind the other differences.

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Take a perkins A6 354.4 as an example, the turbo variant has an a bigger oil cooler, bigger gudgeon pin, piston cooling jets, different crankshaft hardening process, lower compression for example. That is not to say you can't fit a turbo to a non turbo motor but bear in mind the other differences.

Exactly you really want a turbo engine to start with there’s a hell of a lot of differences

 

[L P]

Exactly you really want a turbo engine to start with there’s a hell of a lot of differences

There's not in diesels. CR is already up there, diesel doesnt detonate and let's face it, 4+l for 100 hp is hugely under stressed. 5130 Cummins ought to reliably do 160chp on a bar boost with pump wound up. The most common misconception in tuning is what the engine can take. 100hp/l is a good benchmark of max ability before heavy reworking. Its the cooling system, clutch, box, brakes that take the brunt.

 

[MF CI]

There's not in diesels. CR is already up there, diesel doesnt detonate and let's face it, 4+l for 100 hp is hugely under stressed. 5130 Cummins ought to reliably do 160chp on a bar boost with pump wound up. The most common misconception in tuning is what the engine can take. 100hp/l is a good benchmark of max ability before heavy reworking. Its the cooling system, clutch, box, brakes that take the brunt.

I just explained some of the differences in a turbo diesel engine. 100hp/litre before heavy reworking? Can't see a MF 590 putting 400hp

 

[glasshouse]

There's not in diesels. CR is already up there, diesel doesnt detonate and let's face it, 4+l for 100 hp is hugely under stressed. 5130 Cummins ought to reliably do 160chp on a bar boost with pump wound up. The most common misconception in tuning is what the engine can take. 100hp/l is a good benchmark of max ability before heavy reworking. Its the cooling system, clutch, box, brakes that take the brunt.

So a 14 litre steiger could knock out 1400 hp?

 

[L P]

So a 14 litre steiger could knock out 1400 hp?

Yes.

 

[Wellytrack]

I fitted a tb turbo to a 100-9O raised it 28hp iirc , tb turbos were a good turbo.

I remember them on 40 series Fords. Transformed them into something completely different.

 

[Wellytrack]

There's not in diesels. CR is already up there, diesel doesnt detonate and let's face it, 4+l for 100 hp is hugely under stressed. 5130 Cummins ought to reliably do 160chp on a bar boost with pump wound up. The most common misconception in tuning is what the engine can take. 100hp/l is a good benchmark of max ability before heavy reworking. Its the cooling system, clutch, box, brakes that take the brunt.

You are mistaken or off your tats, 100 per litre in a high rpm/lower torque density setting like automotive engine is possible but 50hp/litre is largely where even the most stressed modern tractor engines are.