MF 290 Turbo filter

[Richard98]

Evening all, we've got a Massey 290 with a dealer fitted TB turbo, had the tractor since new. Its due for a service but I'm struggling to find the canister type oil filter for the turbo, shown in the photo. Would anyone have a part number for it? Its my own fault really for not keeping/losing the filter box from when I last serviced it. Local MF dealer has always got them in the past but they can't seem to find them now.

Cheers
Richard

 

[Happy hillbily]

Any numbers on the actual filter ?

 

[shumungus]

I'm no use to you on this one but could I trouble you for a few more photos of the turbo set up as i have an old kit lying in a box which i intend to fit sometime but I've never seen one fitted. Is there a model number on the turbo?

 

[SMID]

Its a while since the 590 with the T B turbo was here but the filter was the same a s a BMC MINI.

 

[Cowabunga]

The one on my 590 TB Turbo was the same as for the BMC A Series engine, which is what the mini and Morris 1000 and Mini Metro was fitted with. Should still be available at any motor factors or garage worth its salt.

 

[agrimax]

Fleetguard LF633 or Baldwin P176.

 

[ACEngineering]

Not even sure why it would need one? the pressure feed would already be filtered from the normal engine filter.

Perkins later 4236 types and the 1000 series fitted a longer spin on filter on the turbo spec engines, same thread etc as the short ones. i often fit the longer ones to the non turbos cause its easier to keep more of the common turbo spec one in stock.

 

[Cowabunga]

Opico fitted a large very very expensive spin-on canister which they insisted had to be Opico branded. The one and only reason being a big profit item shared between Opico and the dealer. It was pure money-making. At least TB used a commonly available filter which even today should leave change from a fiver.

 

[Richard98]

Any numbers on the actual filter ?

I'll have a look at some point but I was a bit reluctant to take the canister off until I had a replacement ready

 

[Richard98]

I'm no use to you on this one but could I trouble you for a few more photos of the turbo set up as i have an old kit lying in a box which i intend to fit sometime but I've never seen one fitted. Is there a model number on the turbo?

Yeah sure, when I'm next there I'll get you some photos

 

[shumungus]

Yeah sure, when I'm next there I'll get you some photos

Ta.

 

[Richard98]

thanks a lot @SMID @Cowabunga @agrimax, that's great

 

[Richard98]

@shumungus

 

[shumungus]

@Richard98 Thanks very much for remembering but I can't seem to get them to open or see them, anybody else having this problem or just me?

 

[shumungus]

Whilst on the subject to any of you knowledgeable members, if turboing the 290 using the 4 248 engine should I go wastegate or non-wastegate?

 

[Cowabunga]

Whilst on the subject to any of you knowledgeable members, if turboing the 290 using the 4 248 engine should I go wastegate or non-wastegate?

You could go with either as long as it is the right turbine for the job. The TB turbo kit was never a wastegate turbo and neither was the factory MF390T but the 398 had a wastegate. They used the 236 engine but that's not relevant.

 

[shumungus]

You could go with either as long as it is the right turbine for the job. The TB turbo kit was never a wastegate turbo and neither was the factory MF390T but the 398 had a wastegate. They used the 236 engine but that's not relevant.

Was thinking of using a wastegate turbo to give more low/mid end power and reduce over pressure at high revs. The turbo used on a 5455 is wastegated I was thinking it might be suitable.

 

[agrimax]

Near neighbour has a turboed 290 that I would keep right for him. The turbo was fitted before he bought it as least 20 years ago.Neither an Opico or TB kit.
The odd time I've seen a dampness of oil from the oil feed pipe gasket but never anything to worry about as it soon burns off and isn't anything to worry about.However,I took a phone photo of the turbo number and make, a couple of years ago to see if a replacement would be available if need be. It's a KKK turbo but I never did look it up...until this evening after reading this thread.
It's the same turbo as used on a Porsche 944 which would be wastegated I believe. At least if it needs a new core etc,I'd think it could still be got. The Perkins manifold however,could be a different matter.Never did figure out what it might have came off originally as it obviously had to suit the turbo being fitted outside the bonnet.

 

[shumungus]

Near neighbour has a turboed 290 that I would keep right for him. The turbo was fitted before he bought it as least 20 years ago.Neither an Opico or TB kit.
The odd time I've seen a dampness of oil from the oil feed pipe gasket but never anything to worry about as it soon burns off and isn't anything to worry about.However,I took a phone photo of the turbo number and make, a couple of years ago to see if a replacement would be available if need be. It's a KKK turbo but I never did look it up...until this evening after reading this thread.
It's the same turbo as used on a Porsche 944 which would be wastegated I believe. At least if it needs a new core etc,I'd think it could still be got. The Perkins manifold however,could be a different matter.Never did figure out what it might have came off originally as it obviously had to suit the turbo being fitted outside the bonnet.

Think I have a manifold sourced from a generator engine it was a 4.236 engine but as far as I know the head dimensions are the same. Its a 4 hole rectangular turbo fitting. Have to wait till it arrives (this week) and then I take it from there, make it up as I go along. Have an oil filter head with tails to an air oil cooler radiator in the front sorted too as I realise cooling may be an issue.

 

[Timbo]

Not even sure why it would need one? the pressure feed would already be filtered from the normal engine filter.

Perkins later 4236 types and the 1000 series fitted a longer spin on filter on the turbo spec engines, same thread etc as the short ones. i often fit the longer ones to the non turbos cause its easier to keep more of the common turbo spec one in stock.

There is a slim but feasible chance that the extra filter is because the turbo oil feed is taken from a gallery pre main engine filter.