Movement breach

[onthehoof]

Had an email today to say I will be fined 3% of SFP for movement breach after inspection found I had sent sheep to Newark in January 2020 and not recorded the movement.
Now I didn't sell any sheep in Jan 2020 and never sold any sheep at Newark ever!
How do I sort this mess out?

 

[Nearly]

Ask Newark mart to tell who they sent 'your' money to?

More chance of getting sense from the mart than from anyone else involved.

 

[Flat 10]

Reply with the second sentence above and tell them to sort it out and tell them you resent being treated like a criminal when you have done nothing wrong. That's what i did when i was fined more than that for allegedly claiming 60ha of my neighbours which i hadn't....

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Get proof from the RPA, take to court if you have to.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

I would like you to ask Janet Hughes how this happens......

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And more importantly ask why there is no ombudsman to arbitrate when RPA, EA or Natural England make mistakes and serve punishment with no redress.

 

[Mixedupfarmer]

Ask Newark mart to tell who they sent 'your' money to?

More chance of getting sense from the mart than from anyone else involved.

Good luck with that, Newark Market shut down months ago

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Reply with the second sentence above and tell them to sort it out and tell them you resent being treated like a criminal when you have done nothing wrong. That's what i did when i was fined more than that for allegedly claiming 60ha of my neighbours which i hadn't....

when we bought the neighbours about 12 years ago, I went to claim payments (I bought entitlements to suit) and was told it was already on someone else's IACS. I had to take the deeds in to prove it was mine. They would not tell me who had been claiming on it! Data protection or some such. I suppose I could have done a freedom of information claim, but to be honest I wasn't that bothered. Les who be bought from had horses, so didn't claim, therefore the land was not being claimed for.

 

[Dry Rot]

Tell them you didn't but if they have proof, your solicitor would be glad to see it. And if they insist, take it to court.

When did the law change? Making accusations without proof used to be defamation as I recall.

Far too much of this having to do civil servant's work for them.

 

[Nearly]

Good luck with that, Newark Market shut down months ago

Drat.
Anyone got a letterhead to copy?

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

Ask for all the details of the movement, including the copy of the licence which ARAMS will have if it existed.
If they cannot find this then they have no proof of any breach.

Send a letter by recorded delivery to whoever's name is on the paperwork. If there is no name then try phoning and get everyone's name.

 

[Wombat]

Basically you are screwed as they will hold the BPS till its resolved if you pursue it, so you take the 3% fine and wait till god knows when for the 97% or lube up and take it like a good boy.

Been there and got the T shirt and i have an inspection report saying no issues found but they still fined me 2% for undeclared parcels. The RPA would struggle to deliver a dominos..............

 

[spin cycle]

i had a herdwick stray onto our holding coupla years back.....reported it but trail went 'cold' at newark mart.....just sayin

 

[onthehoof]

Quick update - had a phone call yesterday to say they are dropping the case as they cannot get a copy of the (alleged) movement from Newark, little disappoined really as I was looking forward to seeing who had actually done the movement! It was apparently an electronic movement but my dad always did the sheep movements and didn’t have a computer, so always sent in the paper copies.
Edit.. suspect someone may have used our holding number to get around the 6 day rule

 

[yellowbelly]

had a phone call yesterday to say they are dropping the case as they cannot get a copy of the (alleged) movement

Is that the best they can come up with?
It has the ring to it that they think you did it but, out of the goodness of their heart, they're dropping the case 'cos they can't get a copy of (a non existant ) movement.

Bloody scandalous. They at least owe you an appology for their own mistake.

Just about sums them up, IMHO

 

[robs1]

Ask for all the details of the movement, including the copy of the licence which ARAMS will have if it existed.
If they cannot find this then they have no proof of any breach.

Send a letter by recorded delivery to whoever's name is on the paperwork. If there is no name then try phoning and get everyone's name.

I expect They wont give you any names , had an issue with Lloyd's about a claim I made for a credit card payment to be returned, it went on for months, had a right barney with a woman who refused to identify herself so I could make a complaint