Moving to Bravoxin from Heptavac P
- Thread starter Jerry
- Start date
- Location
- N.Lincs
We didn't.
How does a sheep know if it got it's antibodies to tetanus, or whatever, from Heptavac or Covexin or Bravoxin, last time??
- Location
- Scottish Borders
As above , i switched 3 years ago, and never a bother !
Lynemorebf
Member
- Location
- Perthshire
Switched to Covexin 10 probably 4 years ago. Not had any issues
ISCO
Member
- Location
- North East
If you want the full protection against all 10 in Bravoxin you will.need a double dose. One dose will do the same as hep P minus the P.
We switched a few years ago and just did ewes once so not full protection until gimmer lambs came through double jabbed.
Being cheaper it's not as painful throwing part bottles away.
We switched a few years ago and just did ewes once so not full protection until gimmer lambs came through double jabbed.
Being cheaper it's not as painful throwing part bottles away.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Likewise, moved the crossbred ewes over several years ago, giving one dose as their pre-lambing booster.
I have still been jagging the ewe lambs with Heptavac P, but their booster as a shearling is Bravoxin, with the rest of the ewes they’re running with.
I have still been jagging the ewe lambs with Heptavac P, but their booster as a shearling is Bravoxin, with the rest of the ewes they’re running with.
Norfolk Hill Farmer
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Have you stopped routinely vaccinating lambs during their first summer ?
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
No, we always see a bit of pasteurella in late June here for some reason, and think it would be extremely foolhardy not to vaccinate against clostridials.
First jab was with Ovivac P, the second with Bravoxin, rightly or wrongly.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
No. But then Heptavac/Ovivac only cover a few strains, and some might suggest not very well at that?
Like any other insurance policy, it has to be weighed up against risk. The predatory pricing recently has meant they have made the risk more affordable than the cover in a lot of people’s minds.
We were told the P protection only lasted six weeks anyway.
gpcwm
Member
- Location
- welsh border
Up until a couple of years ago used ovivac p in lambs then switched to bravoxin. We always had a pasturella problem in backend so would go in with ovipast vaccine (pasturella only) in august
Had a mix up in communication with a bunch this spring which we gave bravoxin and pasturella to all rest had just bravoxin
Had a bit of pneumonia/pasturella early July here, guess which bunch lost the most lambs out of- yes the pasturella treated mob.
Had a mix up in communication with a bunch this spring which we gave bravoxin and pasturella to all rest had just bravoxin
Had a bit of pneumonia/pasturella early July here, guess which bunch lost the most lambs out of- yes the pasturella treated mob.
- Location
- North West
Using Covexin 10 this year and long story short I didn't have enough for the mob I had in yesterday luckily I was marking what had been done along the way so know what hasn't been done. My question is - how close to the 6 weeks would you dare to leave it for the second jab? first was done on 6th July so 6 weeks from that date is Saturday but not sure I will be able to get them in before then. Thoughts?
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ISCO
Member
- Location
- North East
6th July?
I'd just do them ASAP after Saturday. Wouldn't worry about a few days.
I'd just do them ASAP after Saturday. Wouldn't worry about a few days.
- Location
- North West
- Location
- Ballyclare Northern Ireland
Used to vaccinate with Heptavac P religiously, one late spring I had a ewe dead at the back of a hedge on three consecutive mornings, sent them for PostMortem all came back as Pasturella, phoned local rep and explained the situation. Rep brought me the MSD rep two days later who told me I had no recourse as Hep P covers one or maybe two strains of Pasturella and there are NINE different strains in sheep. Comeplete con. Have used Bravoxin ever since, cheap as chips.
ISCO
Member
- Location
- North East
Same here.
Bravoxin price means I don't worry if I have to discard a part bottle
- Location
- Scot Borders
I think hep p covers 7 strains but there are near 30 out there
Also hep p is now near 40/50 years old hasn’t been updated much. Done with it now myself too
- Location
- East Ayrshire
Even then, they'd just question how you could be sure they were all done properly - don't ask how I know
- Location
- Huntingdon
what's difference between hep vac p and ovivac p ?
and is ovivac still available ?
With regard to vaccinating store lambs , what's the thoughts on product ?
obviously bravoxin is cheapest but limited protection
and is ovivac still available ?
With regard to vaccinating store lambs , what's the thoughts on product ?
obviously bravoxin is cheapest but limited protection
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