Neighbour Wanting Access.

[Tarw Coch]

Good luck with contacting BT OR Wayleaves...

I'm still waiting 7 weeks after sending a form in regarding poles on my land that they don't pay anything on.... Not to my properties either!

Perhaps you need to tell them to remove their poles by X date or you will do it for them and invoice them for the work....................bet they’ll contact you then.?

 

[steveR]

I learnt last week that it is illegal (since 87) to T off from a water pipe to a second residential property - has to be a new connection!

not sure on commercial units though

In theory...

I did this in 1991 for my new farmhouse. Severn Trent had a whinge, but I pointed out that the supply after the meter was mine to do what I liked with as I do not make separate charges. They were happy...

Their real issue is the charging for the return to the Sewer, which is an other matter altogether!!

 

[steveR]

Perhaps you need to tell them to remove their poles by X date or you will do it for them and invoice them for the work....................bet they’ll contact you then.?

But who do I tell???

 

[Farmer_Joe]

I did that with an electric pole, they paid no wayleave and even though it was in my garden supplying my house i told them it was trespassing and i wanted it removed,

they came and put it all underground for free!

just google how to do it i did and was successful.

 

[betweenthelines]

Developments.

He’s emailed. Says he has digitally measured the distance, 78 metres, and that the standard payment is £3.90 per metre plus a few quad each year thereafter.

So he’s offered me £500 one off.

I’m not going to respond. When he mithers I might tell him I’ll get an agent to look into it as long as he’s paying.

Can he do what he likes and get BT to carry on regardless?

Bear in mind he already has good broadband and he’s requesting the upgrade. His is the only property up the lane.

E mail back that you want to park your spreader in his garden as it's "not convenient" to park it on your property. Tell him NCP say standard overnight parking charge is a tenner, but you'll give him a couple of quid on top just to be neighbourly.

Then drive your rig down his lane..........

 

[Cab-over Pete]

I like that idea................................but it won't fit down the lane!!

 

[betweenthelines]

Any update on this Pete?

 

[Cab-over Pete]

Not heard a thing from him and if he mithers me about it any time soon I’ll be informing him that if he has nothing better to worry about just now than updating his chuffing broadband then I’ll nip and see him to break social distancing guidelines just enough to kick his arse down the lane.

 

[Kidds]

I'm sure you said earlier in the thread you weren't into confrontation.
Have you gone stir crazy or summat?

 

[Cab-over Pete]

I’m not, but he could sorely tempt me.

 

[4course]

RRhheetteesteethe

This relates to a single property asking for an easement, it is easily enforceable as a claim for costs can be made against the owners of the house if they ignore the agreement. The op describes it as a big house worth a few £.

Realistically, once underground what damage will be caused to the property owned by the op? None. There is minimal risk of underground cables or water pipes with no joints incased in ducting of failing.

Obviously the sums involved need to be worthwhile for the op. But I fail to understand why some are so against making money from the use of the area underground.

 

[4course]

having had a problem with our electric supply a few years ago and initial quote was in the region of £5000/ km for underground supply plus extras would seriously get the neighbour in the first instance agree to pay your fees before any negotiations and then see how it pans out .plus only deal through your legal team as then you can keep your personal distance

 

[Cab-over Pete]

Yes, I’ve told him that already.

 

[BredRedHfd]

Didn't know whether to start a new thread, or piggy back from this. Hope you don't mind @Cab-over Pete .
Openreach van turned up this morning. Looking at T ing off our fibre to a neighbour just behind us. A developer chap bought the farm and buildings, not the land. (Previous tenant still farms that....)
They have ripped it apart, and there's to be 5 dwellings built. They need to get fibre to it, and the only other alternative is a third of a mile down the road, and new poles, which would be difficult to say the least(small lane and endless trees). It would have to go across two of our fields, approximately 150m to our boundary(marked in blue) then across fields farmed by the previous tenant of the property (marked in red and orange). Already told the lad if we did agree to anything, it'd have to be underground on our fields, which we own(already have enough poles).
Is it a job for an agent from the get go when openreach come back to us? New owner not approached us. Think he's just left it to openreach.He's been there couple years, has a construction company. Any advice greatly appreciated. I'm sure we're in a fairly strong position, as our route is the simplest...

 

[upnortheast]

Openreach need to get a wayleave agreement with you . Not sure if they have standard terms or open to negotiation.

 

[warksfarmer]

Didn't know whether to start a new thread, or piggy back from this. Hope you don't mind @Cab-over Pete .
Openreach van turned up this morning. Looking at T ing off our fibre to a neighbour just behind us. A developer chap bought the farm and buildings, not the land. (Previous tenant still farms that....)
They have ripped it apart, and there's to be 5 dwellings built. They need to get fibre to it, and the only other alternative is a third of a mile down the road, and new poles, which would be difficult to say the least(small lane and endless trees). It would have to go across two of our fields, approximately 150m to our boundary(marked in blue) then across fields farmed by the previous tenant of the property (marked in red and orange). Already told the lad if we did agree to anything, it'd have to be underground on our fields, which we own(already have enough poles).
Is it a job for an agent from the get go when openreach come back to us? New owner not approached us. Think he's just left it to openreach.He's been there couple years, has a construction company. Any advice greatly appreciated. I'm sure we're in a fairly strong position, as our route is the simplest...
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Had something similar and they refused to put it underground and wanted overhead poles, one of which was to be cited in the middle of a field that is only 45m wide so basically splitting it in half making it a pain for a sprayer (36m). Eventually after lots of correspondence they backed down and it was never done. Don’t back down and stick to your guns.

 

[Old Tup]

Aye-up,

I have a neighbour, alright but it’s a bit prickly with his wife on account she thinks it’s alright to blatantly cut my hedge whenever she feels like it. They bought a big property up the private lane past our land


He wants to put in a new water pipe and BT cable ducting (I presume to get better internet) with a trenching machine. He’s stated he will make good any damage to the field.

It’s permanent grass, distance of about 200m

Anything to ring alarm bells?

Cheers, Pete.

Surprised if the cable duct and water pipe can go in the same trench...
BT etc from past experience are reluctant to bury anything in non accessible land....(not 6 inches under the surface in the roadside verge)
Duct and pipe needs to be well buried 2ft plus....
But really ...the only one to benefit is the "Blow In".
So depends on how good a neighbour you want to be.....and would the asker do it for you?...

 

[Old Tup]

If she trims your hedge, I would insist on the right of access to her hedge in return!

But seriously, why do they now want to put water etc. across your property? Does their property not have frontage to a public road?

 

[Castle Farm]

No way. A bag of worms best left tied up.

 

[Wombat]

Simple answer no