New Grain trailers, what are the options?

[Boohoo]

I've had a 25ft 12t flatbed Marshall since 2001.
Brilliant trailer .
Bought 33ft 14t this year ,looks very well finished .


See two Marshall grain trailers sold very well at a Kent
auction a few months ago so no problem with residuals either.

They did make cheaper ranges years ago which didn't do their
reputation any favours but I think the younger generation
have got a good product now.

Certainly alot more obligable than a trailer brand local to me.

I bought a new 8.5 ton dropside this year, it had to go back it was so bad. Lorry driver who lifted it said he knew it would have to go back before it was even delivered to us. We had 3 Marshalls before that, including 1 of those cheaper ones, but I won't have another. Marshall were building better trailers in the 80s than they are now.

 

[James]

Had to drill a hole in my kane dropside earlier in the year

 

[Deutzdx3]

since when ?

Last couple of months.

 

[lloyd]

I bought a new 8.5 ton dropside this year, it had to go back it was so bad. Lorry driver who lifted it said he knew it would have to go back before it was even delivered to us. We had 3 Marshalls before that, including 1 of those cheaper ones, but I won't have another. Marshall were building better trailers in the 80s than they are now.

Fair comment regarding your experience.
Think most manufacturers make Friday afternoon models.

 

[Spencer]

Well I like our Baileys.. Easy to find at night

 

[Deutzdx3]

Is James Stewart aware of this???
Ktwo took over Warwick!!

My mistake Warwick is what I meant. ?[emoji23]

 

[Lincsman]

Stewart 16t is 21 cube. What are others?

Our 16t Smyth is same capacity as a 18t Stewart. Think there was maybe a mistake with order or was built wrong.

Not necessarily, very old AS trailers were a tonne capacity behind Woottons at the time, a 10 tonne AS only had 10 tonne in it if it was stone

 

[Chae1]

Not necessarily, very old AS trailers were a tonne capacity behind Woottons at the time, a 10 tonne AS only had 10 tonne in it if it was stone

Smyths 16t just same cubic capacity as Stewart. 21 cube.

Will look at welding greedy boards on Stewart. Its a L model so is long and low for root crops.

 

[Boohoo]

Fair comment regarding your experience.
Think most manufacturers make Friday afternoon models.

Mine wasn't a one off though, I've seen others with the same issues since. There appears to be a complete lack of quality control because even a quick walk around would've been enough to see the faults.

 

[lloyd]

Mine wasn't a one off though, I've seen others with the same issues since. There appears to be a complete lack of quality control because even a quick walk around would've been enough to see the faults.

Out of interest what were the issues?

 

[Boohoo]

Out of interest what were the issues?

Most obvious fault was the centre posts were splayed out, the way a well used trailer would be. The posts weren't straight and the sockets for them hadn't been welded in square. The posts were also impossible to remove without a jack and a sledge.
The bale extension was twisted, we didn't even attempt to fit it.
Where welds had been ground down too much had been taken off leaving steel, especially on the sides very thin.
Some of the pins for the sides were fitted upside down and the plates around the holes weren't welded fully so water would've got in. Hinges for the sides were all shapes, making the sides difficult to put on.
The pipe stand wasn't on square.
There was welding spatter everywhere.
The paint looked poor when we got it and after 6 weeks of sitting inside it had started to rust. They don't use a nice shade of red either, there's a pink tinge to it.
We didn't tip the trailer up so there could've been more issues under the body or with the chassis.

 

[lloyd]

Most obvious fault was the centre posts were splayed out, the way a well used trailer would be. The posts weren't straight and the sockets for them hadn't been welded in square. The posts were also impossible to remove without a jack and a sledge.
The bale extension was twisted, we didn't even attempt to fit it.
Where welds had been ground down too much had been taken off leaving steel, especially on the sides very thin.
Some of the pins for the sides were fitted upside down and the plates around the holes weren't welded fully so water would've got in. Hinges for the sides were all shapes, making the sides difficult to put on.
The pipe stand wasn't on square.
There was welding spatter everywhere.
The paint looked poor when we got it and after 6 weeks of sitting inside it had started to rust. They don't use a nice shade of red either, there's a pink tinge to it.
We didn't tip the trailer up so there could've been more issues under the body or with the chassis.

Not good by the sounds of it.
Something must have been a missed .
What make did you go for afterwards?

 

[Boohoo]

Not good by the sounds of it.
Something must have been a missed .
What make did you go for afterwards?

I was very disappointed considering the price of it.

I collected this Herron today.

Was £450 more but it's higher spec, has more steel in it and is finished properly.

 

[lloyd]

Looks like a useful trailer
Could do with something more versatile
than our chieftain dump.

 

[Thomas Simpson]

Had 3 Stewart’s now and have been good trailers. Always priced a few competitors up but have been impressed with the Stewart’s and they are normally extremely competitively priced and stuck with them.Had odd issue with them but have been well looked after. The ktwos look good.

 

[yellow belly]

Had bailey trailers since 1996 never had grain leak out if the door is shut down
it has a valve on the door hydraulics that prevents accidental opening if the body is down
if the door is shut tight it will not open never leaked rape or linseed
I have one that has been rolled on its side and it has never leaked
the 16 tonne holds 18 tonne wheat
the brakes hold the tractor back when fullyloaded but do not lock up when empty

 

[Goffer]

Agreed. Personally I would spend the lttle bit extra and go for a DRT. Stronger and better paint job imho.

Jesus last drt paint job I saw there was paint runs top to bottom and front to back . Dated build nowadays as well

 

[Grass And Grain]

Jesus last drt paint job I saw there was paint runs top to bottom and front to back . Dated build nowadays as well

I think they have a good paint man now, so much better than a few years ago.

I like the design, but horses for courses. We don't have a DRT, but have a Richard Western. I like the Western, although I think a few people have complained about the western paint on this forum in the past.

There seems to be good and bad paint jobs from most manufacturers. I've seen some baileys that are very good, and others that have rusted from under the paint within a few years.

Maybe something to be said for buying a second hand trailer, say 5 years old, then you can see if the paint shop was having a good day or not.

 

[Fish]

What ever the colour, I would spec any trailer over 14t with a stearing axle.

 

[Robert K]

Is there a rubber seal around the door?

Rape seal