New Kuhn venta 3030/ 4030

[Goffer]

Hello , anybody running one of these , any gripes ,pita with them ? . Looking at them as gone full circle looking at drills and after drilling again with our old combi this week if begs me the question that you can have all the drills going but a combi will drill every month of the year as long as it’s reasonable , when it’s perfect they all drill but tricky time you reach for the combi, cash as well allows me only to spend 1 lot of cash not 3 on 3 drills

 

[Lewis821]

Been on one today, very good drills IMO with very good establishment.
The negatives I find are it’s bloody heavy! There’s lots of bearings and bushes, moving parts etc. The packer can pluck on heavy stuff when wet. Easy to calibrate, can save all your varieties/tgw which reduces calibration, fairly easy to empty out. I like how you can program in the start up speed so you don’t get striping when you set in. Will of done 600 acre+ with ours this year as an emergency drill where the rapid won’t go, no issues, the only other I’d consider is a 4m lemken folding

 

[Goffer]

Thanks for the reply , does it have a spool valve solely for the bout markers and how did you get on with the shut off on the top link ?

 

[Lewis821]

Ours doesnt have markers, ? ? ?. It requires one spool that lifts the coulter bar up and down. The on off switch works fine not had any bother.

 

[Goffer]

I did wonder about the markers , shows them in literature but no mention of a spool requirement . Optional extra by sound of it . Have an lc 402 at moment and faultless apart from its age

 

[KB6930]

We're on our second the first was a pre production model we still have markers 9n the new one but had to get a sensor kit and back dated software to get the tramlines to trip on with them .
The tramlines off the top link sensor works fine but when we're in really stoney going you need to pause it or remember to skip it back if you need to lift it .
They're a good drill we had an Nc 3000 which was too heavy then got an lc 3000 which was lighter but not strong enough to take the seed flex coulter bar .
You need 3 spools 1 for the fan another for the power harrow and another for markers

 

[Lofty]

We've got a 3030 with wide spaced (20 rows in 3m) Seedflex and Steeliner packer on the PH which makes it a heavy lump. Gone very well in some extreme conditions this year. 4 spools needed on ours. Fan, markers, hyd depth on PH and hyd top link for the drill.

 

[KB6930]

Is your hydraulic top link not through the power harrow control box both ours have been you get depth leveling board and top link

 

[Lofty]

Is your hydraulic top link not through the power harrow control box both ours have been you get depth leveling board and top link

No, didn't need the divertor on the PH as we've not got hyd levelling board and tractors got 4 spools.

 

[Goffer]

Thanks for the info ,

 

[KB6930]

What coulter width would you be looking at ?

 

[Farma Parma]

Still running the LC3000 here but on a big tractor 240hp
seedflex makes a good job but had to strengthen all linkage mounting bushes n pins not long ago
plus them Seedflex linkage pins n plastic bushes are a pain to change.
Mines just about at the replace sowing disc stage of which i will do soon.
did look at current much improved model at LAMMA but i cant justify the price to change.
Will just look after mine & keep it going a while yet.
3 spools right enuff & still use markers on tramline seq on mine.
Great Tramline system dunno whats changed on new ones?

 

[KB6930]

Still running the LC3000 here but on a big tractor 240hp
seedflex makes a good job but had to strengthen all linkage mounting bushes n pins not long ago
plus them Seedflex linkage pins n plastic bushes are a pain to change.
Mines just about at the replace sowing disc stage of which i will do soon.
did look at current much improved model at LAMMA but i cant justify the price to change.
Will just look after mine & keep it going a while yet.
3 spools right enuff & still use markers on tramline seq on mine.
Great Tramline system dunno whats changed on new ones?

Markers are a thing of the past apparently so they've done away with the ability to step the tramilner on off them and use the top link sensor instead but it is doable as we hard ours changed it was 3 fun days drilling their way tho until it was sorted

 

[Farma Parma]

Markers are a thing of the past apparently so they've done away with the ability to step the tramilner on off them and use the top link sensor instead but it is doable as we hard ours changed it was 3 fun days drilling their way tho until it was sorted

There trying to reinvent the wheel like all the rest eh.
Ive got on really well with that setup & to be fair the Toplink sensor for the seed is 99.9% of the time no trouble neither
Altho you get the odd wobble as i see in one of my rape fields there is a 9m unsown bloody Gap this year...
Normally watch the screen like a hawk esp at the ends to make sure all is drilling....
Must have been on the phone & had snr moments.

Mind the Markers could have been better designed if god forbid you ever hit anything with them its DAMAGE !!

i see the NC ones swung totally diff & now the 3040 ones are completely new & have shear bolts !!! finally

 

[Lofty]

Tramlines are a bit of a thing of the past was well TBH ??, but agree that tramline advance on the in/out of work signal is a PITA.

 

[Farma Parma]

Tramlines are a bit of a thing of the past was well TBH ??, but agree that tramline advance on the in/out of work signal is a PITA.

How do ya sow Headlands then? ive got RTX Trimble Guidance but switch it off on headlands. its no use
Back to the markers.

 

[KB6930]

There trying to reinvent the wheel like all the rest eh.
Ive got on really well with that setup & to be fair the Toplink sensor for the seed is 99.9% of the time no trouble neither
Altho you get the odd wobble as i see in one of my rape fields there is a 9m unsown bloody Gap this year...
Normally watch the screen like a hawk esp at the ends to make sure all is drilling....
Must have been on the phone & had snr moments.

Mind the Markers could have been better designed if god forbid you ever hit anything with them its DAMAGE !!

i see the NC ones swung totally diff & now the 3040 ones are completely new & have shear bolts !!! finally

You can use yours on the top link if you want it's actually handy at times if you get a sensor issue and will be fine in land with no stones but for us it's better to have both options.
The lc markers were sh!t we bent a few !!
Shear bolts are fine on a 3m but on a 4 they break quite regularly it doesn't take much of a hole and the actually rip the threads out the nut a double nut helps tho

 

[Farma Parma]

Am buggered if iam making new A-B lines on every headland its just a faf & in a lot of cases there often twisty with multiple bends in, its just easier doing them
old school i think, Curve Feature does kind of work on the GPS but its not always right.

 

[KB6930]

Tramlines are a bit of a thing of the past was well TBH ??, but agree that tramline advance on the in/out of work signal is a PITA.

I agree to a certain extent if you put them in with the drill it's firmer to drive on first pass after as your on the drill tractors tyre marks but yes with gps they're not a necessity but try telling someone in their mid 50's that

 

[Lofty]

The top link mounted gear arangement sensor works very well. Only thing you have to watch is that it doesn't turn off and stop drilling when you start to get stuck half way up the field and lift the linkage up to transfer some weight.
I've cable tied a welding rod to the end of the metering shaft and stuck a little flag on the end so I can see the metering wheel turning from the seat. Gives a bit more confidence in the technology of you can confirm its actually doing what its supposed to be.