P X Farms

[Clive]

Well I was nearer £200 than £150, and I don't think I was the underbidder. TBH, I didn't really want it all. It was lotted in 3 lots, there were 3 or 4 local farmers where 3/400 acres would have added to their business in a way that 1300 wouldn't. But it all went to PX as one lot. The landowner of the original block then bought best part of 1000 acres next door and James took that on as well (I assume on the same terms. I never heard it went out to tender)

Sounds a bit like farming financial suicide to me !

However you never know what has really been paid on tenders, highest rent isn’t always the deciding factor

 

[Hereward]

CTF and potatoes in the same sentence is possibly the fastest thing I’ve heard in a while

When it comes to soul health you really cat polish a turd

Great excuse for some massive kit though !

I guess its just accurate tramlines, and with the tramlines levelled out the sprayer can go flat out.

 

[Clive]

Some good auto corrects in that post!

Fixed ! Dam iPhone !

 

[Clive]

I guess its just accurate tramlines, and with the tramlines levelled out the sprayer can go flat out.

Whatever it is it doesn’t look cheap

 

[Brisel]

Landowner keeps SFP or any future payments?

It depends on the individual deal, but all bar one CFA I've been involved with had BPS and stewardship going into the contracting account for both parties. That's going to be interesting in the future - some tenants kept the BPS out to pay the rent - what will happen when BPS goes and £80-90/acre less income comes in?

 

[tw15]

A lot of money rent that but if they are growing spuds on say 200 acres of it each year it might just help to stack up . Madness to pay silly high rents and work for nothing . See it all over the place , get more land then have to get bigger kit then have to get even more land and so it continues .
Sometimes big ain't all its cracked up to be.

 

[ollie989898]

A lot of money rent that but if they are growing spuds on say 200 acres of it each year it might just help to stack up . Madness to pay silly high rents and work for nothing . See it all over the place , get more land then have to get bigger kit then have to get even more land and so it continues .
Sometimes big ain't all its cracked up to be.

When SFP goes and everyone is in the real world for once we shall see what is what.

 

[Clive]

A lot of money rent that but if they are growing spuds on say 200 acres of it each year it might just help to stack up . Madness to pay silly high rents and work for nothing . See it all over the place , get more land then have to get bigger kit then have to get even more land and so it continues .
Sometimes big ain't all its cracked up to be.

Why is high rent justified by potato rents ? In many years roots strike me as a better way to loose money than combinables ?

 

[Brisel]

What cost would you put on the damage done to your soils by growing potatoes then ripping them out & leaving deep ruts in October? I'll bet it's more than £200/acre...

 

[Clive]

What cost would you put on the damage done to your soils by growing potatoes then ripping them out & leaving deep ruts in October? I'll bet it's more than £200/acre...

I simply won't rent potato land despite being asked a lot ! So there is no price as far as I’m concerned

I know to get others to let it big rents have be offered but that doesn’t mean you can make money at that level

Spuds are cheap most years it seems, fixed cost and variable cost astonishing and very weather risky , I can’t see anyone making consistent fortunes from them really ?

 

[tw15]

Potatoes are one sure way to bugger up your soil . You end up beating ten bells out of it to get it stone free and then at the end there's the harvesting traffic .
Then you have the potato boys that want some virgin potato land and from what it seems will pay very high rents compared to normal cereal rents .
Hats of to px they have built up a impressive business .

 

[tw15]

Many years ago spuds were mainly sold wholesale and if it was a bad year for yields the price went up most farmers had a bit of it . Now days most are grown on contract at a fixed price .

 

[Daniel]

I wonder if the fancy 8 row planter loses as much topsoil as everyone else’s does in a high wind?

 

[Hereward]

I wonder if the fancy 8 row planter loses as much topsoil as everyone else’s does in a high wind?

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Are you on another holiday?

 

[foxbox]

I wonder if the fancy 8 row planter loses as much topsoil as everyone else’s does in a high wind?

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Is that soil?!

 

[Hereward]

That's like another world, I'm not far away in the scheme of things, never seen soil erosion like that however, clearly not trying hard enough here!

 

[Daniel]

Are you on another holiday?

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[Hereward]

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It's like pictures you see of the wind blow in the US mid west or Australia etc. not rural England.

 

[David.]

Got some sp barley on sand here, and that was like a fen blow too.
Used to be not uncommon for beet seed to all be blown in the dyke, old boys used to reckon.

 

[Bossfarmer]

Sounds like the sort of business ive been telling @Clive will outbid him while he waits for his rent to drop by the sfp amount, interesting to hear many cfas have the sfp put into the pot and split