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At least we are reducing our massive 0.9% by using adblue ffs
Pissing in the wind
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Dave6170
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Must be a lot of cows in china!
UK population is 0.84% of the world population so we are about 7% over the average world emissions per person?At least we are reducing our massive 0.9% by using adblue ffs
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Yeah and the Chinese, Indians and US would never massage their figures...
icanshootwell
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But it makes our politicians feel good about them selves, I call it Bob Geldof syndrome, the planet healer's.
Exfarmer
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I was quoted the same figure in India last week
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Everybody is probably understating/estimating their figures, but the total still can't come to more than 100%.
0.9% could still be true. It's just a case of 0.9% of what.
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Yep Pissing in the wind and pissing everyone off at the same time with all the green BS ,
just sick of hearing the nonsense all the time on everything you do and an excuse just to put a green levy on your every movement
just sick of hearing the nonsense all the time on everything you do and an excuse just to put a green levy on your every movement
Which is, clearly, bollox.
0.9% will be the emissions accounted for within our borders. ie excluding all the emissions we have exported. Also, I think though happy to be corrected, excluding international flights. And us Brits do like to fly.
serf
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Do YOU , I and doubt most ppl DGAS about this nonsenseWe use it to sell our meat. We must be doing something wrong.
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And we get 100% climate change measures ,rules and crap ???
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yes normally international flights are excluded from figures. 1 Tonne for each passenger flying to/frpm Delhi, where I have just had the good fortune to have been. I noticed apart from our BA flight there was a Virgin plane on the same route. So yesterday those two planes notched up something like 1400 tonnes there and back.
I would guess that there are probably something like 30-40 flights or more to India every day with probably a dozen airlines and probably 7-8 Indian cities having direct routes
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We, as a country and a species, are polluting and anyone claiming otherwise is ignorant and / or dishonest. And anthropogenic climate change is a definite thing, no rational analysis of the facts can lead to any other conclusion. It is is moral and rational to cause as little harm to the environment as we can, and this is the case even when doing so is less convenient or more expensive for us. However...
... we are just passing through and are only causing ourselves and our contemporary species problems. Pretty much regardless of the damage we do, once we are gone - whether that's in 100ka or 100ma - the Earth will recover and we will be as irrelevant then as we were before the last Ice Age.
eu.usatoday.com
... we are just passing through and are only causing ourselves and our contemporary species problems. Pretty much regardless of the damage we do, once we are gone - whether that's in 100ka or 100ma - the Earth will recover and we will be as irrelevant then as we were before the last Ice Age.
You sure? The link below explains why not, and also provides references t back that up:
Humans are responsible for a significant amount of CO2 in the atmosphere | Fact check
The atmosphere is roughly 0.04% CO2, but humans have contributed about one-third of that since 1850.
eu.usatoday.com
Per year not lifetime as your article suggests,but its still very lityleWe, as a country and a species, are polluting and anyone claiming otherwise is ignorant and / or dishonest. And anthropogenic climate change is a definite thing, no rational analysis of the facts can lead to any other conclusion. It is is moral and rational to cause as little harm to the environment as we can, and this is the case even when doing so is less convenient or more expensive for us. However...
... we are just passing through and are only causing ourselves and our contemporary species problems. Pretty much regardless of the damage we do, once we are gone - whether that's in 100ka or 100ma - the Earth will recover and we will be as irrelevant then as we were before the last Ice Age.
You sure? The link below explains why not, and also provides references t back that up:
Humans are responsible for a significant amount of CO2 in the atmosphere | Fact check
The atmosphere is roughly 0.04% CO2, but humans have contributed about one-third of that since 1850.
Last year 750 giga tonnes were emtted ,of which human activity produced 29 gigatons so thar was 4%
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By the time they take in to account the emissions produced in making ad blue and transporting it to the point of sale. Then the energy to cart the extra weight about on each vehicle, plus the energy wasted making all the replacement exhaustsand parts that go with it that don't last 5min, be as well to do without. Ad blue is another conAt least we are reducing our massive 0.9% by using adblue ffs
Danllan
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Not 'my' article, an article by a reliable journalistic source. All the evidence tells us that the cumulative effect is the relevant one... Out of interest, why the focus solely on CO2?
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I find this measure of carbon interesting. A little research shows 1 tonne of co2 fits in a box with sides of 27 feet. Is this 1400 tonnes you speak of co2 or carbon? I ask because it makes this talk of carbon confusing. When you burn carbon the ratio is something like 12 carbon + 32 oxygen = 44 co2 by weight. So your 1400 tonnes is either carbon or co2 in which most of the weight is oxygen and not all carbon. 1kg of jet fuel produces 842g of carbon, 2245g of oxygen which is 3087g of carbon dioxide.
so when we talk of carbon trading, credits or sequestering are we talking carbon or carbon dioxide?
I'm being stupid I guess.