Poor establishment of bird food mix

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
Ab9 or whatever it is. Flailed off last year’s. Let it green up. Round upped it. Greened up. Cultivated it. Let it green up. Repeat. Then greened up again. Drilled and then rolled twice. All that’s come is a mass of willoweed (or redshank) . Date is now after date by which must be drilled. Question is should I leave it or redrill? What’s the best option for the rpa?
 

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
@Flat 10
what mix are you putting in , do you have grass weed issues in your plots , we got a mix from @Great In Grass.
7 kg buckwheat
2 kg camelina
1.5 oil raddish
2 kg quinoa
1 kg mustard
Can sprsy gramminicide on this
As some strips , millet has taken over , so can sprsy it out now .
Re drill , now it will jump out of ground , do you put much fert on it
No N as fertile peat. On non peat land use N. It’s cereals, sunflower, kale, turnip, linseed and quinoa from memory which is about the only thing that’s grown.
 
Redrill
had an inspection last year
for brd seed mixes they
measure the area. Make sure the areas measures enough

they want something growing but not all the same so with bird mixes I use 3 cereals some millets sorghum and
buck wheat With some red clover
what they do not like to see is a plot with on majority plant weeds are not a problem father is good

I now plant ab9 in May as often april planted fails
either in a wet year slugs and pests take it
or in a dry year the seedbed dries out while we are drilling other cash crops
In May
in a dry time spray off then power Harrow shallow
in a wet time plough and powerharrow till a seed bed and drill
where we have a 2 year mix we do stitch in with a disc drill some cereals as long as there are few thistles
 

B'o'B

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Rutland
Ab9 or whatever it is. Flailed off last year’s. Let it green up. Round upped it. Greened up. Cultivated it. Let it green up. Repeat. Then greened up again. Drilled and then rolled twice. All that’s come is a mass of willoweed (or redshank) . Date is now after date by which must be drilled. Question is should I leave it or redrill? What’s the best option for the rpa?
You’ve got until 15th June to establish AB9. Drilled some of mine today and will finish tomorrow.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Does AB9 stipulate a minimum plant population? I know the Welsh scheme’s equivalent doesn’t.

whenever I’ve queried the logic of not allowing us to establish the crop properly, I’ve been told that we are being paid to create ‘habitat’, so weeds aren’t a problem.
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Similiar problem here. I spoke with my unofficial NE adviser and got his recommendation and agreement for a course of action.

70% of the birdy mix needs redrilling so I have applied for an MTA*, aka a derogation, to allow cultivation and re-drilling, and will drill (if we get the rain as promised) this weekend.

Seed on the way from Kev in Cornwall as I type... @Great In Grass.



* Back covering exercise, in case of an Inspection. ?
 
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steveR

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Mixed Farmer
Does AB9 stipulate a minimum plant population? I know the Welsh scheme’s equivalent doesn’t.

whenever I’ve queried the logic of not allowing us to establish the crop properly, I’ve been told that we are being paid to create ‘habitat’, so weeds aren’t a problem.

I had essentially nothing on 2 x 0.5ha blocks, partial emergence and then died. DDrilled in early/mid April, nothing growing noiw, not even many weeds as I had barely disturbed the top after spraying!
 
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steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Ab9 or whatever it is. Flailed off last year’s. Let it green up. Round upped it. Greened up. Cultivated it. Let it green up. Repeat. Then greened up again. Drilled and then rolled twice. All that’s come is a mass of willoweed (or redshank) . Date is now after date by which must be drilled. Question is should I leave it or redrill? What’s the best option for the rpa?

Apply for an MTA and re-drill. Put plenty of "evidence" and justification into the document as to why the crop failed and you now need to re-drill. In my case drought!

 
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