poppies in winter linseed

Flat 10

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Fen Edge
What is the best approach? Loads of them. Field has had Avadex and it looks to have slightly yellowed them? Will the Maya, Eagle mix do them in the spring? I'm worried they will get quite big....... Not on label for either of them but is on label for Ally..............
Any thoughts @They see me rolling and others?
TIA
 

Hindsight

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Lincolnshire
ally should nuke poppies surely ;)



Unless resistant to SU's! Will find out in the spring !!! MCPA on winter linseed - no idea as not grown before. But I have same issue in a field - they came through Avadex and Callisto. Hey ho
 

Flat 10

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Location
Fen Edge


Unless resistant to SU's! Will find out in the spring !!! MCPA on winter linseed - no idea as not grown before. But I have same issue in a field - they came through Avadex and Callisto. Hey ho
MCPA sadly no longer on label or eamu?
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
North Yorkshire
MCPA and Chekker lost their EAMUs sadly, through lack of residue data.
Best bet for Poppies in spring is Ally/Jubilee.
Doesn't that stunt the crop & reduce yield? You've got to weigh up the downsides of weed competition too I suppose. Is there a way of mitigating the crop effect of metsulfuron? Cool weather, high water volume, not after a windy spell for leaf wax etc?
 

Flat 10

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Fen Edge
Doesn't that stunt the crop & reduce yield? You've got to weigh up the downsides of weed competition too I suppose. Is there a way of mitigating the crop effect of metsulfuron? Cool weather, high water volume, not after a windy spell for leaf wax etc?
I’ve not seen massive crop effects myself. They recommend zinc as a crop safener but the only time I’ve used it I thought it safened the ally on the weeds. Poppiesare not only competitive but tend to get in the sample ☹
 
Doesn't that stunt the crop & reduce yield? You've got to weigh up the downsides of weed competition too I suppose. Is there a way of mitigating the crop effect of metsulfuron? Cool weather, high water volume, not after a windy spell for leaf wax etc?
Depends when you apply it, I haven't seen many cases of bad damage, yes it can slow growth, but on upside might save you on a PGR. Yes suggest adding Zinc. Don't apply when its cold or drought -same rules as most herbicides really.

MCPA was only safe at really low doses, it was a herbicide you apply and then shut the gate. . Now MCPA is only approved on flax in France, they don't need residues as it doesn't enter the food chain. To give you an idea, when they harvest the flax and pull it out into straight fibers, they can tell where MCPA was used as there is a kink in the fibers. Chekker was excellent.

The only hope i can offer is herbicide screening is on-going of existing chemistry. The problems is for EAMUs on linseed there must be residue data on an oilseed crop pesticide label, otherwise they will not grant an EAMU. This narrows down somewhat the list of potential herbicides. I have tried Arylex and it killed linseed, but will keep looking.
 

Hindsight

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Location
Lincolnshire
I’ve not seen massive crop effects myself. They recommend zinc as a crop safener but the only time I’ve used it I thought it safened the ally on the weeds. Poppiesare not only competitive but tend to get in the sample ☹
Back in the day to enhance metsulfuron we added non ionic wetter. Not sure how that would sit with crop damage.

MCPA - I have used it as an emergency against Fat hen late - crop in flower, case of 'needs must'. Kinked the flowering stems but crop carried on an went to harvest. Yielded Ok, but of course no large untreated area as comparator for a yield effect.

Chekker was ideal - though potentially weak on Fat Hen - some MCPA or bromoxynil to enhance was I always thought 'prudent' when using it. Shame lost.
 

richard hammond

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BASIS
Doesn't that stunt the crop & reduce yield? You've got to weigh up the downsides of weed competition too I suppose. Is there a way of mitigating the crop effect of metsulfuron? Cool weather, high water volume, not after a windy spell for leaf wax etc?
That all depends on what rate of use is advised!, and the conditions at the time of use,
 

DrWazzock

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Location
Lincolnshire
Probably fly off the shelves in holland and barret if folk knew there were poppy seeds in amongst them. Are we trying to solve a problem that isn't a problem, like holes in beans?
 

DrWazzock

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Location
Lincolnshire
Go through with a tined weeder The linseed will dodge the tines. The big flat poppy plants will get ripped out. Do it twice. Fiddle with tine angle to differentiate.
 
On the contract side, for interest, I am not aware of any contracts specifying tolerances to poppies – no other industry other than equine has concerns. Any linseed destined for equine customers will be NOPS tested prior to delivery….at their cost.
 

AHDB winding down horticulture and potatoes operations as Ministerial decision awaited

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AHDB has announced yesterday it is winding down significant activities on behalf of the horticulture and potatoes sectors.

While still awaiting a decision on the future by Ministers in England, Scotland and Wales, AHDB wants to reassure levy payers their views have been heard following recent ballots in the two sectors.

AHDB is now stopping programmes of work that could be restarted in the future by grower associations, individual growers or the supply chain. This work includes for example, export market access and promotional international trade event work, consumer marketing campaigns and market pricing and insight information. AHDB will continue to deliver limited emergency work on pests and diseases, including the Extension of Authorisation for Minor Use (EAMU)’s and some...
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