Problems from grazing High Clover Leys?

steveR

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Mixed Farmer
Not long got back from the Livestock back onto arable land conference and during the drive back across the East Midlands, my mind was firstly "thank God I don't have to negotiate the A14 roadworks, more than once every two years!"

Then it was pondering some of the topics from the speakers, and especially the (planned) move to a less N heavy grazing mix here. Probably using clovers and ryegrass as a GP mix for grazing and conservation, and also using a stewardship scheme to put in herbal grazing leys. again with N fixers.

Many years ago, when I still had hair on my head, we used to have a fair number of young stock, and I can remember putting a bunch of 6-7month old cattle onto a block of grassland with some clover in it in April/May time... Low and behold, 2 or 3 got bloat and required Vet intervention! In my defence, I was young then, although my Uncle should have known better. :unsure:

So are there any similiar issues with Sheep grazing?


Also, are there any additions to mixtures that could be included to counteract bloating in cattle?
 
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Al R

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Livestock Farmer
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West Wales
Not a very good explanation in terms of clovers mind but that’s all that’s in the bible.
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Al R

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Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
So basically, ANOTHER interesting way in which a sheep can die.....

Interesting read, thanks.
David C Henderson - veterinary guide for sheep farmers. Incredible book even if it is very outdated. The next page tells you how to and where to put the insert into the side of the sheep to let the air out. Personally I’ve always used a hosepipe - have bloat from ewes stuck on their back not from clover though.
 

steveR

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Mixed Farmer
David C Henderson - veterinary guide for sheep farmers. Incredible book even if it is very outdated. The next page tells you how to and where to put the insert into the side of the sheep to let the air out. Personally I’ve always used a hosepipe - have bloat from ewes stuck on their back not from clover though.

Just had a look on eBay and Amazon. There are some iffy copies floating around for about 35 quid, original copy a lot more...

Sounds like a book to scan and OCR ;-)
 
Location
East Mids
We graze the dairy herd on leys with high white clover content but never a problem. We were a bit nervous about putting bulling heifers on and for the first couple of days excluded them for 12 hours just to check they could handle it OK but no issues so they were let in full time - never had a problem.
 

Hesstondriver

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Huntingdon
i was taught at uni about an interaction between red clover and poor fertility (in sheep from memory) , something to do with higher estrogen in red clover, does this happen in real life ?
 

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