Quad stolen with threats of violence

[icanshootwell]

I know the sound of my dogs' bark. One for the postie and a different one for any strangers, not that I get any! Also, the kennels are wired in over the top and I wouldn't recommend a stranger trying to feed them dope or poison through the wire.

I have thought of fixing up remote catches on the kennel gates, so they could be opened simultaneously from the house at the press of a button but it really isn't needed. They'd kick up such a racket if someone was prowling about at night, I'd be out of bed and doing a Tony Martin in double quick time.

No no, not in the back, make sure they turn around, then let um have it.

 

[Still Farming]

I don't think being a white minority works quite like that, look at the white farmers in South africa.

Can't win what ever?

 

[ollie989898]

If you have dogs you want at least 4 of the things. Big angry ones. And rig it so you can lean out of a bedroom window, pull a rope and release them from their pen. Pretend you are an East German border guard.

Make sure the security footage is on youtube by 9am so I can see it.

 

[Farfrae]

Over here in these United States we have a thing called a "Police force" try stealing a quad bike from a farm here and the first thing you have to get past is the farmer/rancher with a gun............if you manage to get past that then you have to deal withe cops...........they have guns also if things get sticky.

Guess what.........we don't have theft from farms.

no just around 40,000 people killed in shootings in 2017

 

[Roger Perry]

Not too many of those on farms though..!

 

[PSQ]

Police officer on twitter said a few months ago that when this happens, no one claims the gear because their worried insurance company will take away their replacement.

Maybe there would be a few less stolen quads if this 'Police Officer' spent less time sitting in a lay-by writing mindless drivel on Twatter.










(Says farmer sat in office writing this shite ).

 

[ollie989898]

How is it, the police don't have enough money to walk the beat or investigate everyday crime, yet they can afford to run mobile speed cameras and twitter all day about what they had for breakfast?

 

[PSQ]

Don’t agree, had some people back up my drive a couple of years back. I walked into my workshop and walked out with an old shot gun. They soon got in their vehicle and drove off. Just so happened I had been cleaning it that morning. [emoji23]

I was walking around the farm scaring pigeons with the SG a few years ago, when I noticed someone skulking around in my back 'back' garden (have to go through 2 doors to get to it). So I tiptoed down the path, through the open doors, and around the corner to confront the bloke (SG broken, carried over shoulder, to be 'polite').
- it was the window cleaner. Very near shat himself when I said 'hello' and he turned around to see me grinning and carrying a gun. Turns out the Jehovas don't have much of a sense of humour, not a happy chap...

 

[Grassman]

We all condemn the theft of far gear, but someone somewhere is buying the stolen goods and 99% of the time, they have a fair idea it's nicked.

Just saying.

Plod will not raid a caravan site, ever. It is too expensive when they get sued for harassment of an ethnic minority...

Actually they do sometimes. One was raided near Doncaster and a large number of stolen dogs were found. Also a lot of other stolen property and a cannabis farm was found.
Unfortunately there are another 50 travellers sites just around Doncaster!

 

[Grassman]

The police told me one of the biggest problems for them is the total lack of checking goods leaving through the ports. Saying 1 in 100 vehicles get checked is an exaggeration. We all know the travelling fraternity more of less live off crime but a lot is now by East European and north African organised gangs.
The lack of effective policing is moving the uk towards being a third world country. Vigilantism will be the only way to protect ourselves if the police are helpless.

 

[Highland Mule]

out across the thousands of farms and ranches in rural America theft of property is at a very low level, most never ever lock up buildings/vehicles.

Sounds a lot like much of the Highlands - would you agree @Dry Rot ?

 

[ollie989898]

Actually they do sometimes. One was raided near Doncaster and a large number of stolen dogs were found. Also a lot of other stolen property and a cannabis farm was found.
Unfortunately there are another 50 travellers sites just around Doncaster!

Keep raiding them every month until they get the message.

 

[Dry Rot]

No no, not in the back, make sure they turn around, then let um have it.

But wouldn't that be a waste when I could just let the dogs out for some 'training'?

 

[Dry Rot]

Sounds a lot like much of the Highlands - would you agree @Dry Rot ?

I can't imagine thieves getting far without someone noticing!

 

[kiwi pom]

If that's the best advice from an organisation your paying for I would have to say that you guys are in trouble.
I cannot say this country does not have problems with guns, but out across the thousands of farms and ranches in rural America theft of property is at a very low level, most never ever lock up buildings/vehicles.
Rural policing is good with the local sheriff being an elected position so has to have regard to the citizens wishes and concerns.

Theft in rural America is low because of the low population and remoteness of many farms, making quick in and out raids from a major road network impossible.
If you farmed 10 minutes drive from down town Detroit, I'd say you have big problems and everyone in the gang would have a firearm not a crowbar, you're unlikely to win that one.
Rural crime in the UK is bad in areas that aren't really rural at all, They're just a few farms between one town and the next, with extensive road networks for people to quickly disappear. There's just too many people in too small a space, especially in England.

 

[Kidds]

I'd be out of bed and doing a Tony Martin in double quick time

You'll have your guns taken off you talking like that. You wouldn't like that now would you!.

 

[Dry Rot]

Out in the islands, the only time I locked my doors was when I was at home -- to stop drunks just walking in!

I bought a Land Rover off English people who had recently moved into a small village on the west of Scotland. It was quite an experience as they were highly suspicious and would not accept cash in case the notes were forged.

And on my side the usual traces did not work because they were new to the area and nobody knew them. I eventually got a local councillor to contact their new neighbour and check them out! Finally, we went to the bank together and did a transfer there which seemed to reassure them.

When they'd got their money and I'd got the vehicle, we both relaxed and they told me the locks wouldn't work in the house they'd purchased because they'd rusted up! That sounds a bit more like the rural Highlands, though it's more urbanised where live now.

 

[Roger Perry]

Theft in rural America is low because of the low population and remoteness of many farms, making quick in and out raids from a major road network impossible.
If you farmed 10 minutes drive from down town Detroit, I'd say you have big problems and everyone in the gang would have a firearm not a crowbar, you're unlikely to win that one.
Rural crime in the UK is bad in areas that aren't really rural at all, They're just a few farms between one town and the next, with extensive road networks for people to quickly disappear. There's just too many people in too small a space, especially in England.

I am afraid you are overlooking one crucial factor, if as in your example you happen to farm close to a major city and IF the local street gang decide that stealing your tractor pays better than selling coke, they have somehow got past the farmer and are headed for the border a call to the police or highway patrol will bring action.............you are comparing NO action Britain with the way things happen here..........not the same thing.

 

[ollie989898]

Theft in rural America is low because of the low population and remoteness of many farms, making quick in and out raids from a major road network impossible.
If you farmed 10 minutes drive from down town Detroit, I'd say you have big problems and everyone in the gang would have a firearm not a crowbar, you're unlikely to win that one.
Rural crime in the UK is bad in areas that aren't really rural at all, They're just a few farms between one town and the next, with extensive road networks for people to quickly disappear. There's just too many people in too small a space, especially in England.

Exactly. Why would a criminal in the USA travel 3 hours to rural America to steal red diesel when fuel is so cheap anyway, and is it worth nicking scrap or farm machinery given the distances to a port etc??

No, easier to just rob service stations at gunpoint by shooting the cashier dead for the sake of the few hundred bucks in the till.

 

[glasshouse]

I am afraid you are overlooking one crucial factor, if as in your example you happen to farm close to a major city and IF the local street gang decide that stealing your tractor pays better than selling coke, they have somehow got past the farmer and are headed for the border a call to the police or highway patrol will bring action.............you are comparing NO action Britain with the way things happen here..........not the same thing.

Theft is commonplace iin britain, always has been, and it starts at the top.
The aristocracy stole all the land, thats why most of our farmers moved to america!
Now we have the bankers stealing from us, and the new breed of landlords too.
Quadbike theft is very small cheese compared to the tax evasion widely practised in our tax havens.
Thats why cameron gave us brexit, cos the eu was going to outlaw the havens