i'm not so sure - I think most farmers are as pee'd off with this size regardless
I fully understand per tonne sold its a bigger cost the smaller you are but it make no sense at any level to me
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i'm not so sure - I think most farmers are as pee'd off with this size regardless
I fully understand per tonne sold its a bigger cost the smaller you are but it make no sense at any level to me
ollie989898
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Clive why dont you just grow feed wheat and flog it to local farmers?
spin cycle
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was looking at an oven ready chicken today....it had the rt symbol at the bottom.....but very prominently displayed was a union jack flag in the shape of a heart.....made me think the company obviously think it necessary to display the flag to consumers with rt's badge as an afterthought
What paperwork wouldn't you do if you left RT?
spin cycle
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there's a reasonable amount......but look....is it more important to 'write the job down right' or 'do the job right' because....the truth is i've been in noroso meetings where the guy has said ' whatever you do write it down right'
there's also a lot of miniature....remembering that can muddle your thinking day to day
i concede rt has a problem....stick to basics and the complaint is 'whats the difference?'.....try to ramp it up and they get lots of flak
rt needs to get farmers on board...stop telling themselves that their 'pet farmers' are representative....elected farmer board reps by the 'membership'....full transparency.....minutes of meetings available to all members....changes to standards properly debated.....in other words what any other 21st century organisation would do
tullah
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His question should read...Have you more time to devote to your farm now you are free of RT.
Anyway firstly I wouldn't have to read through and interpret the whole rt requirements for a start.
Write a cheque, post it.
Record it in accounts.
Count the insects in the grainstore and write it down.
Write down every time I cooled the grain,checked the temp, swept up,
swept the trailers the list goes on.
It drives me crazy even getting this far with the list. That's why I packed it in and now let next door deliver it all to the mill for me. I reckon they record 12 tonne wheat a hectare on their records to cover their tracks. They also get a premium as they've more bargaining power with merchants selling a bigger heap so it's win win.
Above all it's the satisfaction of knowing I'm no longer being taken for a ride by timewasters, call them what you will, and there are better things in life with which to occupy my time.
Anyway firstly I wouldn't have to read through and interpret the whole rt requirements for a start.
Write a cheque, post it.
Record it in accounts.
Count the insects in the grainstore and write it down.
Write down every time I cooled the grain,checked the temp, swept up,
swept the trailers the list goes on.
It drives me crazy even getting this far with the list. That's why I packed it in and now let next door deliver it all to the mill for me. I reckon they record 12 tonne wheat a hectare on their records to cover their tracks. They also get a premium as they've more bargaining power with merchants selling a bigger heap so it's win win.
Above all it's the satisfaction of knowing I'm no longer being taken for a ride by timewasters, call them what you will, and there are better things in life with which to occupy my time.
Seed labels.
Chem records.
Spray contractor MOT/ licence
Sprays in store duplicate records
Field records
Grain condition / temp / moisture / pests
Cleaning records *
Chem spill plan
Grain store risk Ass.
Pest management plan
Moisture meter calibration *
CIPC ass.
Waste certificates
Waste exemptions
Crop walking records
Food hygiene reg no.
Emergency plans
Pollution risk plans
Integrated pest management plan
Vermin control plans
Point of first tip records
Local bee keepers plan.
Just for starters.
* Would do these 2 anyway, even if I left the scheme. The rest is utter rubbish.
Chem records.
Spray contractor MOT/ licence
Sprays in store duplicate records
Field records
Grain condition / temp / moisture / pests
Cleaning records *
Chem spill plan
Grain store risk Ass.
Pest management plan
Moisture meter calibration *
CIPC ass.
Waste certificates
Waste exemptions
Crop walking records
Food hygiene reg no.
Emergency plans
Pollution risk plans
Integrated pest management plan
Vermin control plans
Point of first tip records
Local bee keepers plan.
Just for starters.
* Would do these 2 anyway, even if I left the scheme. The rest is utter rubbish.
You do realise that most of these are LEGAL requirements and have to be done by law? Leaving RT wouldn't remove them at all.
One of the big criticisms of RT is that all it does is check farmers are complying with the law. Being a member does at least keep you legal assuming you're properly inspected and aren't fraudulently filling out paperwork.
How many of the above is " most " ?
spin cycle
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I recon 5.at least nine...sorry
Its all alot of paper pushing bulls#t that is a waste of ink and paper. Its been the making of all the scaremongering cross compliance firms though.
spin cycle
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Roll on Brexit and all that eurocrap bureaucratic nonsense can be a bad dream.
Well, if scrapping RT gets rid of only 50% of the paper work, it's well worth it.
spin cycle
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spin cycle
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Well, if scrapping RT gets rid of only 50% of the paper work, it's well worth it.
it's so worth it believe me
,,,,,but as @Clive says if you grow cereals you've no choice really
Well, if scrapping RT gets rid of only 50% of the paper work, it's well worth it.
be lucky twill get worse not betterafraid not...unless it's no deal i suppose
useless buggers got to do something to justify their existence
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