Replace now, or wait for electric?

Formatted

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Livestock Farmer
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Sussex
I bought my first ever new car in 2016, a Toyota Hilux. It's done 110,000 miles and I am waiting for its first big repair bill as part from being hard on breaks and batteries it has been an incredible car. It's probably worth £10,000 which is a lot more than I put down as a deposit when I bought it new and the HP wasn't expensive. I am quite keen to get an electric car as I am never doing journeys over 300 miles and a full tank is £95 and only does 420 miles. I think I have easily spent £20-25,000 on diesel in the last 5 years.

There isn't quite something on the market yet that fits what I am after. I can't, unfortunately, get a straight electric car like a Tesla as for work I often need a 4x4. Am I better off selling it now and getting a new Hilux or should I wait 2 years and get myself an electric pick-up? T
 

HDAV

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Electric are really coming on but aren’t designed for towing, off road or carrying heavy loads ..... yet.....

Interesting quandary new hilux now for 5 years takes you to 2026ish and should have viable electric options will they be available by 2023?
I would say maybe ......

See what sort of deals Toyotas are doing (Ford seem to be selling huge numbers of rangers)

would you consider a 4wd hybrid transit?

Volvo XC90/XC60 T8 with AWD. Might be an option but is double the cost of a hilux?
 

kiwi pom

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Location
canterbury NZ
I bought my first ever new car in 2016, a Toyota Hilux. It's done 110,000 miles and I am waiting for its first big repair bill as part from being hard on breaks and batteries it has been an incredible car. It's probably worth £10,000 which is a lot more than I put down as a deposit when I bought it new and the HP wasn't expensive. I am quite keen to get an electric car as I am never doing journeys over 300 miles and a full tank is £95 and only does 420 miles. I think I have easily spent £20-25,000 on diesel in the last 5 years.

There isn't quite something on the market yet that fits what I am after. I can't, unfortunately, get a straight electric car like a Tesla as for work I often need a 4x4. Am I better off selling it now and getting a new Hilux or should I wait 2 years and get myself an electric pick-up? T
Keep the Hilux, it might need a few quid spent on it but if its not rusted out it will be cheaper than spending on new.
In five or ten years electric might be where you need it to be.
 
I bought my first ever new car in 2016, a Toyota Hilux. It's done 110,000 miles and I am waiting for its first big repair bill as part from being hard on breaks and batteries it has been an incredible car. It's probably worth £10,000 which is a lot more than I put down as a deposit when I bought it new and the HP wasn't expensive. I am quite keen to get an electric car as I am never doing journeys over 300 miles and a full tank is £95 and only does 420 miles. I think I have easily spent £20-25,000 on diesel in the last 5 years.

There isn't quite something on the market yet that fits what I am after. I can't, unfortunately, get a straight electric car like a Tesla as for work I often need a 4x4. Am I better off selling it now and getting a new Hilux or should I wait 2 years and get myself an electric pick-up? T
Similar thinking to you so instead of doing a 3 year lease like I normally would, I’ve just bought with the view of selling after 18 months to get into hopefully an electric 4wd of some description. At this stage I’m thinking rivian as I think everybody else is playing catch up.
 

PSQ

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Arable Farmer
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Scottish Borders
I doubt we’ll see many Rivians being used on UK farms, for farming.

The US price is $67,500, to which you’ll need to add vat which you won’t be able to reclaim (max 800kg tray load). The seats are clad in ‘vegan leather’, enough said 🤦‍♂️
 
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Horn&corn

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People say keep your truck and run an electric along side but On our hilux insurance is £460, tax £250, mot and servicing £250ish so its £1k per year before depreciation or fuel. If only occasionally towing you could look to hire a vehicle for those occasions. I’m sticking with the hilux for now
 

Formatted

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Sussex
The Tesla Cyber truck base model was $45,000, which doesn't seem unreasonable when you consider fuel savings. I think I will hold fast for another year and see what's available in the spring.
 

Y Fan Wen

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Location
N W Snowdonia
The seats are clad in ‘vegan leather’, enough said 🤦‍♂️
From 'Rethinking Food and Agriculture 2020-2030':

The disruption hitting the milk market is also
being played out in other animal ingredient
markets where Precision Fermentation will enable a superior and
cheaper alternative to animal-derived products.
These include the disruption of fabric, with
spider proteins being made into thread for use
in clothes, and certain industrial products with
proteins from rare or extinct animal horns or
claws (which are often made from the protein
keratin). “Smart” fibers that glow in the dark,
change color, or even diagnose medical
conditions by detecting changes to the body
will also be possible.
A key market ripe for disruption is leather, via
PF-produced collagen. Collagen is the most
abundant family of proteins in animals and is
present in skin, tendons, ligaments, bones, and
teeth. It is the key protein ingredient in leather at
about 30% by weight.

The production of collagen through PF will
allow the production of modern leathers, which
will be a vast improvement on those that are
produced from animals. No longer limited by the
constraints of the break-down model, leathers of
virtually any property become possible. Strength,
size, flexibility, thickness, feel, aesthetics, texture,
and durability all become variables that can be
tailored to the customer’s needs.
This will not be the first time animal leather
has been disrupted – the 20th century saw
the rise of artificial leathers synthesized from
petrochemicals at a third of the cost. They now
represent about two thirds of the overall leather
market. More recently, entrepreneurs have
also created leather materials from plants
and fungi, but none so far can match all the
attributes of animal leather. As the cost of PF
continues to fall and the characteristics of the
leather produced by it continue to improve,
modern leathers are poised to surpass animal
leather on every functional attribute. In fact, PF
will not only disrupt the existing uses of leather,
but also create new markets that conventional
animal leather does not address, such as roof
shingles or tiles.

By 2030, we forecast that leather produced
from non-animal sources is likely to have
a 90% market share, while the collagen
market in cosmetics and food is likely to be
almost 100% disrupted.
 

HarryB97

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Electric wont happen in 10 years like the goverment say but the amount of electric care will steadily grow. The current national grid can not cope with the current load let alone millions of electric vehicles and more homes. Synthetic fuels are much more likley to take off as they use existing infrastructure and there are none of the downsides of electric vehicles. Buy another normal pickup.
 

AJ123

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South east
For an extra £100 now why not renew the hilux and pre order a cyber truck? Then you can decide once the cyber truck is available and get rid of the hilux then if you want?
 

AHDB winding down horticulture and potatoes operations as Ministerial decision awaited

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AHDB has announced yesterday it is winding down significant activities on behalf of the horticulture and potatoes sectors.

While still awaiting a decision on the future by Ministers in England, Scotland and Wales, AHDB wants to reassure levy payers their views have been heard following recent ballots in the two sectors.

AHDB is now stopping programmes of work that could be restarted in the future by grower associations, individual growers or the supply chain. This work includes for example, export market access and promotional international trade event work, consumer marketing campaigns and market pricing and insight information. AHDB will continue to deliver limited emergency work on pests and diseases, including the Extension of Authorisation for Minor Use (EAMU)’s and some...
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