Resistant Ryegrass and pre ems in winter wheat.

[Renaultman]

What is everyone doing?
I don't think we will get much of a chit before drilling, especially with customers wanting to get drilled in good time, and me with one of my 2nd wheats going into a particularly wet, but thankfully fairly clean field.
I used Regatta Bandur pre em, backed up with luximor on the particularly bad fields post em.
It didn't give the best results

 

[Goodolddays]

What is everyone doing?
I don't think we will get much of a chit before drilling, especially with customers wanting to get drilled in good time, and me with one of my 2nd wheats going into a particularly wet, but thankfully fairly clean field.
I used Regatta Bandur pre em, backed up with luximor on the particularly bad fields post em.
It didn't give the best results

Not surprised. You need to put the Luximo on pre em to get the best result.

 

[Renaultman]

Not surprised. You need to put the Luximo on pre em to get the best result.

That's what I'm thinking.

 

[thorpe]

What is everyone doing?
I don't think we will get much of a chit before drilling, especially with customers wanting to get drilled in good time, and me with one of my 2nd wheats going into a particularly wet, but thankfully fairly clean field.
I used Regatta Bandur pre em, backed up with luximor on the particularly bad fields post em.
It didn't give the best results

if your not getting a good chit forget2nd wheat, probably forget it anyway ryegrass is the work of the devil you might not like it but spring barley or sfi are your only friends

 

[thorpe]

don't think you can control it with chemicals, you wont don't mix it through the soil profile you'll have it for ever, plough finishings are the worst. top off, spray off just don't let it seed and if you don't have a very competative crop be prepared to write it off belive me it will just bite your arse

 

[Brisel]

High seed rates, then cinmethylin, aclonifen and prosulfocarb pre em. Follow up with flufenacet peri emergence. Cancel your autumn holiday to pay for it all and hope you don't get another flush later on.

What have you got known resistance to? Pinoxaden and Broadway/Palio?

 

[Renaultman]

High seed rates, then cinmethylin, aclonifen and prosulfocarb pre em. Follow up with flufenacet peri emergence. Cancel your autumn holiday to pay for it all and hope you don't get another flush later on.

What have you got known resistance to? Pinoxaden and Broadway/Palio?

Yes, pretty much all of the usual spring herbicides, but if you miss a bit it is noticeable.
I'm a big fan of high seed rates but I have never seen Ryegrass drag wheat down and smother it as badly as it has this year.
2 wet springs certainly haven't helped.

 

[thorpe]

High seed rates, then cinmethylin, aclonifen and prosulfocarb pre em. Follow up with flufenacet peri emergence. Cancel your autumn holiday to pay for it all and hope you don't get another flush later on.

What have you got known resistance to? Pinoxaden and Broadw

Yes, pretty much all of the usual spring herbicides, but if you miss a bit it is noticeable.
I'm a big fan of high seed rates but I have never seen Ryegrass drag wheat down and smother it as badly as it has this year.
2 wet springs certainly haven't helped.

if it's that bad get as many chits as you can and into spring barley as soon as it's up and ryegrass at one leaf spray axial , it worked for us this year and thank god it did' in my opinion spring barley is the only way forward if you have a ryegrass problem, you have to have somthing that will compete with it!

 

[Renaultman]

if it's that bad get as many chits as you can and into spring barley as soon as it's up and ryegrass at one leaf spray axial , it worked for us this year and thank god it did' in my opinion spring barley is the only way forward if you have a ryegrass problem, you have to have somthing that will compete with it!

We're not on spring barley land although it is something we may have to think about.
We probably need to reduce the amount of cereals in the rotation and try to make as much, efficient, use of SFI as we can.

 

[thorpe]

We're not on spring barley land although it is something we may have to think about.
We probably need to reduce the amount of cereals in the rotation and try to make as much, efficient, use of SFI as we can.

wether its cereals or not you need somthing that compete with the work of the devil, it's beet for us but not on the worst fields you must not let it seed.