Rushes

[Derrick Hughes]

MCPA application rate for rushes ?

 

[czechmate]

MCPA application rate for rushes ?

How have you bought it Dereck? Second hand in old milk bottles?

I will admit, it seems hugely inconsiderate that the bloody French supply their ag Chems with labels printed in French

 

[Agrivator]

How have you bought it Dereck? Second hand in old milk bottles?

I will admit, it seems hugely inconsiderate that the bloody French supply their ag Chems with labels printed in French

It's even more irritating that our bloody English manufactures supply our Agchems with labels printed in French - litres and bloody Hectares.

 

[Danllan]

MCPA application rate for rushes ?

Agritox goes at 3.3 litres per hectare (1 pint 8oz per acre ), or dilute for spot spraying at 18ml per litre (best mixed with 10ml per litre of 2.4-D e.g. Thrust).

 

[deleted user 837354]

Maximum dose. It will be on the label.

I would use it with 2,4D as well. Also maximum dose. Mixed with thrust it would be quite a mixture.

 

[czechmate]

Agritox goes at 3.3 litres per hectare (1 pint 8oz per acre ), or dilute for spot spraying at 18ml per litre (best mixed with 10ml per litre of 2.4-D e.g. Thrust).

Is that fluid oz?

 

[Danllan]

Is that fluid oz?

Yes, imperial.

 

[Adam@Rumen]

Will it matter if the rushes are leggy with this mixture?

Do they want topping first and then the regrowth spraying?

 

[JMTHORNLEY]

Will it matter if the rushes are leggy with this mixture?

Do they want topping first and then the regrowth spraying?

Found the best way for the rush on my farm and I am slowly winning with them now. Top hard, two passes 2-3 weeks apart on the really old large rush patches with a humongous root ball that sticks out the ground. allow a regrowth of soft green brash and then hit hard with the weed wiper and glyphosphate or the MCPA 2.4D mixture if a large area. I have had to do extensive drainage to get to these palces due to poor management for years gone by.... Spread muck so thick you can't see the ground and smother the little barstewards. They die back over 12 months and so far very small regrowth has been hit the MPCA and 2.4D cocktail to again great effect.

Liming will help and also drainage, I have slowly repaired old clay suffs and dug new trenches to help but by no means a permanent fix.

 

[Boohoo]

Who is it that always posts something about MCPA being a waste of time on rushes and that roundup is the only thing worth using @Forage Trader?

 

[deleted user 837354]

Will it matter if the rushes are leggy with this mixture?

Do they want topping first and then the regrowth spraying?

They want to be at least 12 inches tall and fresh green growth not that half brown woody stuff.

Then whack with full rate mcpa and whatever. Use solarplus adjuvant.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Thanks guys
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Roundup rate in a,weedwipper. Hes been putting 3 litre x 50 litres MCPA in it if that helps

 

[Coximus]

Flail and muck. 24d works fine over two seasons I found... Muck and flailing similar result... All 3and virtual wipe out

 

[JMTHORNLEY]

Thanks guys
Next question
Roundup rate in a,weedwipper. Hes been putting 3 litre x 50 litres MCPA in it if that helps

I go 1:10 in the weedwiper, most possibly to much but f**k it it kills um and it only actually touches the rush so I can live with that

 

[Cvx1170]

+ a bottle of Fairy

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Found the best way for the rush on my farm and I am slowly winning with them now. Top hard, two passes 2-3 weeks apart on the really old large rush patches with a humongous root ball that sticks out the ground. allow a regrowth of soft green brash and then hit hard with the weed wiper and glyphosphate or the MCPA 2.4D mixture if a large area. I have had to do extensive drainage to get to these palces due to poor management for years gone by.... Spread muck so thick you can't see the ground and smother the little barstewards. They die back over 12 months and so far very small regrowth has been hit the MPCA and 2.4D cocktail to again great effect.

Liming will help and also drainage, I have slowly repaired old clay suffs and dug new trenches to help but by no means a permanent fix.

For some fields it's the only option . But hoping the ,weedwipper works.
I've been using MCPA on rushes for 40 years .its half a job . Roundup kills them dead with one hit . You can all argue with me till your blue in the face but that's how it is

 

[Adam@Rumen]

I go 1:25 with roundup in the wiper.

Wiper doesn't work so well when they old and brown

 

[Derrick Hughes]

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[JMTHORNLEY]

I go 1:10 in the weedwiper, most possibly to much but fudge it it kills um and it only actually touches the rush so I can live with that

For some fields it's the only option . But hoping the ,weedwipper works.
I've been using MCPA on rushes for 40 years .its half a job . Roundup kills them dead with one hit . You can all argue with me till your blue in the face but that's how it is

As you can see I’m not arguing with you I use round up to great effect with the wiper but as I said on MY farm that’s what Works to GREAT effect

 

[deleted user 837354]

If it was me, I would only use the most bad ass premium glyphosate product in a weed wiper and follow the instructions on the label very carefully.

Whether you use the weed wiper or MCPA/both barrels option, you really want to be topping the rushes off first and then attacking the regrowth mid-summer. They will be young, green and growing as hard as they can so you will get maximum effectiveness out of your chosen herbicide. I don't know how much weed wiping is but spraying with MCPA or hormone chemistry is pretty cheap, possibly less than a comparable dockspray.