Secondary growth in Oats

[An Gof]

2020 is the season that just never stops giving. My Mascani oats have decided to grow again and are going greener by the day. They were the only crop that I managed to drill in good time but came into ear whilst still below my knees. Now with a wet spell after the spring drought they have decided to grow again. I’m really not sure what is the best option. Glyphosate as soon as I dare for what was there (but I want to keep some for seed) or wait and be patient.
Having nightmares about what the sample and specific weight will be like. What’s everyone else thinking and how do you propose to mange this problem.

PS Wholecrop for the silage pit is the wrong answer for my situation.

 

[teslacoils]

Spring oats - 2 crops

Any one else got this? One shorter crop that the rain didn't come in time for, that is now yellow, and a taller crop above it that's still green. Will get some pics in the morning. I'm slightly dreading the sample, though it'll be better than if it hadn't rained. Anyone in this boat got...

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[An Gof]

Thanks, I hadn’t seen that. Probably ignored it as I don’t have any spring oats.

 

[bobk]

My sb is still germinating . needs sticking in silage clamp really

 

[Kam]

2020 is the season that just never stops giving. My Mascani oats have decided to grow again and are going greener by the day. They were the only crop that I managed to drill in good time but came into ear whilst still below my knees. Now with a wet spell after the spring drought they have decided to grow again. I’m really not sure what is the best option. Glyphosate as soon as I dare for what was there (but I want to keep some for seed) or wait and be patient.
Having nightmares about what the sample and specific weight will be like. What’s everyone else thinking and how do you propose to mange this problem.

PS Wholecrop for the silage pit is the wrong answer for my situation.

I feel your pain An Gof

I've got 100ha like this that's being grown for seed, so don't even have the option of using glyphosate. Patience is the name of the game for me

 

[wilfholme]

Oilseed Rape here, ranges from dead to green to in flower, presume it will be full of red seed when we come to combine it

 

[robs1]

Seeing as the seed trade got a government dispensation for crap germination in beans last year due to weather issues I assume the grain trade wont worry about a bit of red seed or unripe or over time shrivelled grain in our samples.

 

[teslacoils]

Could be another year where "sh!t" oats at harvest are actually just what they need at Christmas.

 

[average farmer]

My winter planted spring oats , planning to round up on Friday

 

[robs1]

Seeing as the seed trade got a government dispensation for crap germination in beans last year due to weather issues I assume the grain trade wont worry about a bit of red seed or unripe or over time shrivelled grain in our samples.

 

[Gedd]

Oilseed Rape here, ranges from dead to green to in flower, presume it will be full of red seed when we come to combine it

Mines the same agronamist just doesn't no when to dessicate

 

[bankrupt]

I’m really not sure what is the best option. Glyphosate as soon as I dare for what was there (but I want to keep some for seed) or wait and be patient.

Same thing here in 1982.

Opted for patience and the first crop blew out the night before harvesting the second.

 

[An Gof]

Same thing here in 1982.

Opted for patience and the first crop blew out the night before harvesting the second.

So in hindsight, and your years of experience, what would your approach be now?

 

[bankrupt]

Sprayed off Sunday.

Should be fit to go 1st August.

 

[bankrupt]

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• David. said:
  What do we think the prospect for milling spec oats, wheat futures minus ten contract, or free buy likely to be best payer this harvest?

  You'll be on to a sure fire winner either way, David.
  
  It's next year that's really bugging me.
  
  Everybody wanting to grow much less of the WOSR, apparently, and many more of the oats, so all the big millers expecting Christmas 2021 to come sometime in August.
  
  Only upside seems to be that, due to the appalling weather last autumn, WO seed is in very short supply.
  
  And this is before any of the big merchants tumble to the fact that most WO seed crops, far from ripening now, are getting greener by the day due to the unusually big secondary growth problem.
  
  

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[Kam]

Sprayed off Sunday.

Should be fit to go 1st August.

Bloody hell, that makes mine look ripe!

 

[bankrupt]

Bloody hell, that makes mine look ripe!

A week ago, ours all looked almost fit to cut - in fact there was a big panic about still being tied up a couple of miles away on the barley for far too long.

But now they're all getting visually greener by the day as the lower storey of the late tillers gradually becomes ever taller than the ripe ones.

In fact, this problem's been inevitable ever since the drought broke with 6" of rain seven weeks ago - it's just been biding its time to show up at the very last minute.

 

[bobk]

A week ago, ours all looked almost fit to cut - in fact there was a big panic about still being on the barley too long.

Now it's getting visually greener by the day as the lower storey of the late tillers gradually become ever taller than the ripe ones.

In fact, this problem's been inevitable ever since the drought broke with 6" of rain seven weeks ago - it's just been biding its time until the very last minute.

Do you think the second crop may out yield the first ?

 

[Northern territory]

Seen a field of wheat and two winter barley do exactly the same around here.

 

[bankrupt]

Do you think the second crop may out yield the first ?

No, because there's still the original, almost ripe, crop now hiding under all the green and a few (very few!) acres still with no green at all.

We're probably now going to end up with 60% of a crop in the heap and the rest blown away by the machinery.

But leaving it to its own devices risks ending up with about 40% (of poorer quality) in the heap and the best 60% shed.