Shop 'til you drop - we've learned nothing so far

HolzKopf

Member
Location
Kent&Snuffit
How disappointing to see at lunch time the news channels reporting that people are queueing round the block at: ........ Primark!

The majority of the clothing from Primark is sourced from factories in India, China, Bangladesh, Pakistan. We all know why; - cheaper labour, cheaper materials and cheaper infrastructure. All produced within Primark's 'strict code of conduct' to ensure employees rights are respected. In some of these areas Covid rates are still climbing steeply.

It's not just them. Many retailers source from the same areas, some others from eastern Europe and Turkey, some from Spain and Portugal. A pleasure to see all the lockdown 'savings' being spent at the lowest common denominator. I am not surprised, there isn't much alternative.

I just hope to God that when we get back to a 'normal' normal the rush for food is not a rush to the bottom again. Throughout the last 10 weeks, farm gates, farmers' markets and independent shops and suppliers have saved so much and so many with their efforts to continue supplying many 'new' customers who were unable to buy the simplest staple foods elsewhere.

Where are AHDB, NFU, DEFRA etc launching publicity and lobbying to keep those customers loyal?

I fear we may have learned nothing

HK
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
Plenty I know have been in total lockdown, yet have been chatting to delivery drivers, going out looking at machinery and livestock, having staff in close proximity.

Even seen them on the news saying how they have been totally isolated and caring for a family member with no help from anyone. Yet they then say they have been to so and so beach.

Total lockdown means no one in and no one out.


Where are the cases coming from now? Is it still in care homes or hospitals?
 
Gotta look at your best for rioting/statue shaking...
I'm going for the vintage look, and giving them to all my friends for Christmas. For £22, it's a bargain
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
How disappointing to see at lunch time the news channels reporting that people are queueing round the block at: ........ Primark!

The majority of the clothing from Primark is sourced from factories in India, China, Bangladesh, Pakistan. We all know why; - cheaper labour, cheaper materials and cheaper infrastructure. All produced within Primark's 'strict code of conduct' to ensure employees rights are respected. In some of these areas Covid rates are still climbing steeply.

It's not just them. Many retailers source from the same areas, some others from eastern Europe and Turkey, some from Spain and Portugal. A pleasure to see all the lockdown 'savings' being spent at the lowest common denominator. I am not surprised, there isn't much alternative.

I just hope to God that when we get back to a 'normal' normal the rush for food is not a rush to the bottom again. Throughout the last 10 weeks, farm gates, farmers' markets and independent shops and suppliers have saved so much and so many with their efforts to continue supplying many 'new' customers who were unable to buy the simplest staple foods elsewhere.

Where are AHDB, NFU, DEFRA etc launching publicity and lobbying to keep those customers loyal?

I fear we may have learned nothing

HK


I'm not sure I get your point here ? today is the first day of none essential retail reopening - food shops have not been closed so no surprise there is no rush to "return" to them ?
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Virus Spread again now most likely .
How are they ever going to lock down again ,answers on a post card?

I reckon the data is rather clearly now showing we should never have locked down as we did - the risks to not "at risk" groups is absolutely minuscule


It's the "at risks" that need to stay home and lock down, the rest of the population needs to get on with earning money and paying tax to support them



they need to undo lock down fully asap now - getting school back 100% is essential which it looks like they are dong now as fast as practical (although school with unionised teachers don't seem in much of a rush to help !)
 

Still Farming

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
I reckon the data is rather clearly now showing we should never have locked down as we did - the risks to not "at risk" groups is absolutely minuscule


It's the "at risks" that need to stay home and lock down, the rest of the population needs to get on with earning money and paying tax to support them



they need to undo lock down fully asap now - getting school back 100% is essential which it looks like they are dong now as fast as practical (although school with unionised teachers don't seem in much of a rush to help !)
Unless you get it or lose family with it possibly?
 

melted welly

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
DD9.
It’s a proper addiction, only to shiny stuff/new things - phones, clothes, trainers, cars.

seeing the idiotic scenes at the Nike store, I’m glad I don’t suffer from it.

Just watching the rammy on the news gave me an overwhelming urge to get in the car and go home, then I realised that because I don’t have wet dreams about trackie bottoms, i couldn’t give a feck about going shopping and hadn’t gone to town in the first place, so I immediately perked up again.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Unless you get it or lose family with it possibly?

its really not going to happen if you are not in a at risk group - look at the stats, it's fraction of a % for under 45's and that's including the "at risk" under 45's - take them out and the number is almost zero !



As I say protect and lock down those at risk ......... but not those there is basically no risk to, that's just silly !
 

Still Farming

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
its really not going to happen if you are not in a at risk group - look at the stats, it's fraction of a % for under 45's and that's including the "at risk" under 45's - take them out and the number is almost zero !



As I say protect and lock down those at risk ......... but not those there is basically no risk to, that's just silly !
Maybe The Scientific and Chief Medical Officers know a little bit more.
 

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