Should users of public rights of way come armed with a map / knowledge of where to walk or expect signage to be adequate!?

[Doing it for the kids]

Had a couple in the yard over the weekend “been here before but a bit lost” type.

pointed out the route politely, left them be.

went to look at something else on the farm and see them off the path again, all Suprised and confused. Walked straight past the signs, including a white spray drum cut in half and fixed to the sign to make it obvious.

dippy beyond belief, I tried to stay polite.

is it expected that users should have a good idea where they are walking or rely on signs?

 

[tepapa]

Yes especially in today's modern world where you can have the map on your GPS enabled smart phone which will show your exact location.

 

[Loftyrules]

Yes especially in today's modern world where you can have the map on your GPS enabled smart phone which will show your exact location.

Combination of the two, no point in having signs if they are no where near, but on the flip side phone GPS is usually a few metres out so some places do need guidance and obvious marking out.

 

[milkloss]

Half the time they know they're not on the footpath......"just walking from that footpath to that one over there" kind of thing.

 

[B R C]

GPS will not help if you have footpaths near your yard. Was at neighbours two walkers went straight by us on footpath looking at phone screen and we heard it say take a sharp right straight up to farmhouse rather than the 20 yards further it should have been down the back of a hedge. Of course if they hadn’t been looking at their phone they might have actually seen the wayposts.

 

[Still Farming]

Walk anywhere then blame landowners or farms for not supplying signs , cleared footpaths and stiles.
We will be trying that when we WALK through their gardens .

 

[7610 super q]

They actually wander around the garden here. A couple approached elderly parent busy in the garden a few days ago, thrust a map in her face, and demanded to know where the path was. All I could think of was.....so much for self isolating. All I hear on here is " Entitled farmers ". Most of the general public seem to think they're entitled to use other people's property FOC too.

 

[Princess Pooper]

They should have a map or use phone GPS. We do have signs (kindly supplied and maintained by county council) but not all are visible from one end of the field to the other (irregular fields, brow of hill etc). We' ve had LOTS of new walkers this year getting very lost (even with a map!)

 

[Steevo]

How about a minimum requirement of scouts badge in map reading too?

 

[Rowland]

As a walker , walking through a farm yard its not always that clear where the footpath goes .
I’d prefer not to walk through a farm yard but sometimes it’s not possible. To save getting hot under the collar put some decent signs up where people go wrong. I had a footpath passed the farm house it then went right then an bit of a wiggle and up the road to the fields . People used to get it wrong following the little arrows the council used to put up so I put much clearer ones up . Can’t say that every one got it right but most did. Also most people are just out to have a nice walk there not some secret agents plotting dark deeds against you.

 

[Clive]

People can walk anywhere they like ........... at least this is what they regularly tell me !

have given up, you could spend your life trying to stop folk, and in reality what harm do they do ?

 

[neilo]

People can walk anywhere they like ........... at least this is what they regularly tell me !

have given up, you could spend your life trying to stop folk, and in reality what harm do they do ?

They mix bunches of sheep up, disturb sheep when they are being tupped, or just had expensive embryos implanted, and they let stock out onto the road through leaving road gates ajar with stock in the field! The vast majority of walkers are responsible of course, but the small minority of self entitled fecktards cause no end of trouble on stock farms.

 

[Sid]

People can walk anywhere they like ........... at least this is what they regularly tell me !

have given up, you could spend your life trying to stop folk, and in reality what harm do they do ?

How many GP are killed or injured by livestock every year?

And you want to let them wander wherever? You carry on, does autosteer go round pedestrians?

Come on Clive, you get the right hump when the builders came across your fields and you are now going through the courts.
Imagine going through the courts when your livestock has injured someones child!

 

[Clive]

They mix bunches of sheep up, disturb sheep when they are being tupped, or just had expensive embryos implanted, and they let stock out onto the road through leaving road gates ajar with stock in the field! The vast majority of walkers are responsible of course, but the small minority of self entitled fecktards cause no end of trouble on stock farms.

that’s the result of them being stupid / careless etc just walking over land doesn’t really do any harm

being urban fridge people walk anywhere they like here, it annoys but the damage is minimal ............. and they do pay us rather a lot of money every year in sub, that more than covers the inconvenience of a few extra paths I guess

 

[Clive]

How many GP are killed or injured by livestock every year?

And you want to let them wander wherever? You carry on, does autosteer go round pedestrians?

Come on Clive, you get the right hump when the builders came across your fields and you are now going through the courts.
Imagine going through the courts when your livestock has injured someones child!

I don’t “want” to let people wander anywhere

I’m suggesting it’s impossible (and maybe a bit pointless) putting energy into stopping them

 

[neilo]

Our local town is full of ‘walker types’ and they have published nice little pamphlets of 7 local ‘trails’, several of which are on the numerous footpaths across this place. The pamphlets are very well written, with simple to follow maps and comprehensive notes to follow. A few still seem to find them hard to follow though, even though all signposts, gates and stiles are well maintained and clear here too.

The worst ‘wanderers’ are locals though, a few of whom seem to think they have a God given right to go wherever they like. They don’t need maps or waymarkers because footpaths don’t apply to them. I had one last week who told me he’d been walking there for years, despite being on an access track that had been completely inaccessible until I cleared it three years ago.

 

[neilo]

They mix bunches of sheep up, disturb sheep when they are being tupped, or just had expensive embryos implanted, and they let stock out onto the road through leaving road gates ajar with stock in the field! The vast majority of walkers are responsible of course, but the small minority of self entitled fecktards cause no end of trouble on stock farms.

I forgot to mention the dog crap, which meant that I had more than half of one batch of hoggets sent this Spring, c9 e back with condemned livers!

 

[Sid]

that’s the result of them being stupid / careless etc just walking over land doesn’t really do any harm

being urban fridge people walk anywhere they like here, it annoys but the damage is minimal ............. and they do pay us rather a lot of money every year in sub, that more than covers the inconvenience of a few extra paths I guess

they soon won't be, what are you going to do then?

I don’t “want” to let people wander anywhere

I’m suggesting it’s impossible (and maybe a bit pointless) putting energy into stopping them

Previous owners of some land had a permissive path to a ancient monument. That agreement ceased when they sold they land.
Barb wire, padlock and keep out signs it has taken to stop dog exercising and faeces being left.
Confronting these people and being pleasant just gets a load of abuse.

 

[Sid]

I forgot to mention the dog crap, which meant that I had more than half of one batch of hoggets sent this Spring, c9 e back with condemned livers!

Its ok for them to shite in Clives fields it's free fertiliser!

I'm sure he let's them in the grain store as well.

Love to see his attitude if he grew vegetables for one of the large retailers!

 

[Clive]

Its ok for them to shite in Clives fields it's free fertiliser!

I'm sure he let's them in the grain store as well.

Love to see his attitude if he grew vegetables for one of the large retailers!

my “attitude“ is simply to not stress about things I can not control or do anything about