six and out

[farmerm]

Death rate is still very low.
So why they panicking??

A office worker can sit in his office with 50 others, but can not go for a pint with 7 of them after work....
Crazy.

the death rate yesterday was similar to mid March... confirmed cases are rising exponentially, it seems reasonable to assume the death toll will start to follow suit. If you remember back in march the number of deaths was doubling every 4 days. Doubling is a powerful mathematical progression. real small number gets real big real fast. If you doubt it get a chess board, give me a grain of wheat for the first square, give me 2 grains for the seconds square, for each square give me twice as many grains as the previous square...

 

[Wellytrack]

Agreed.

Makes no sense. My wife teaches a class of 32 children.

Been back 2 weeks. No outbreaks.

Yet.

Two local to me schools shut yesterday after an outbreak.

 

[farmerm]

Agreed.

Makes no sense. My wife teaches a class of 32 children.

Been back 2 weeks. No outbreaks.

Suffolk, Cardiff and Yorkshire have all have outbreaks in schools already.

 

[Chae1]

Suffolk, Cardiff and Yorkshire have all have outbreaks in schools already.

Teachers though.

 

[Chae1]

Yet.

Two local to me schools shut yesterday after an outbreak.

This is third week back up in Scotland. No major outbreaks I'm aware of.

 

[Wellytrack]

This is third week back up in Scotland. No major outbreaks I'm aware of.

Wife is a Social worker dealing with old folks. General consensus is random outbreaks are getting less random and more typical of higher infection rate.

A lot of good work early on has been undone by selfish barstewards..

 

[Chae1]

Wife is a Social worker dealing with old folks. General consensus is random outbreaks are getting less random and more typical of higher infection rate.

A lot of good work early on has been undone by selfish barstewards..

Was speaking to a nurses mum this morning. They are fully expecting a 2nd wave in hospitals.

Admissions still very low at moment.

Can't see us ever going into full lockdown again though. Economy couldn't cope.

 

[Wombat]

I fear we are about to reverse all the relaxations..... looking at yesterdays stats and even allowing for increased testing I would say we have just reset the numbers to the position we found ourselves in mid-March!!

Lockdown knocked 20mins of my getting to the farm time so it wasn’t all bad [emoji4]

On a serious note I think if they had done these kind of things in early March it would have been much better longer term. I am glad they are being a bit proactive on it this time

 

[Ramrod]

Recreational sport that has a national governing body can still carry on with up to 30 folk at an event.

I’m not aware of a national governing body for shooting!!

 

[Wombat]

People will just have to shoot clays for a bit, not the end of the world is it

 

[Wellytrack]

Was speaking to a nurses mum this morning. They are fully expecting a 2nd wave in hospitals.

Admissions still very low at moment.

Can't see us ever going into full lockdown again though. Economy couldn't cope.

Yes they are all getting told to have all the Christmas shopping done by end of this month.

 

[farmerm]

This is third week back up in Scotland. No major outbreaks I'm aware of.

The reintroduction of the 6 person rule is not really anything to do with if there is an outbreak in a school or not... it is to do with the recent dramatic uptick in total UK cases being confirmed, it was gradually creeping but has surged from 1000 a day to over 3000 per day in the past few days! We all got too complacent and now we are going to suffer the consequences

Was speaking to a nurses mum this morning. They are fully expecting a 2nd wave in hospitals.

Admissions still very low at moment.

Can't see us ever going into full lockdown again though. Economy couldn't cope.

Hospital admissions are lagging, partly due to the bulk of new cases being in the less at risk demographic but if the number of new cases continue to grow exponentially then so too will hospital admissions and ultimately deaths. Yesterdays daily death toll was reported to be 32, a big increase from 12, lets just hope that was not a ture indication of the trend line.

 

[Exfarmer]

I honestly believe that if people had taken full precautions at an early stage , we may never had anything like this outbreak. Hand washing, mask wearing, social distancing, gloves for serving staff etc etc.
watched a lady from Bolton ( or there abouts ) moaning on the TV that this would kill her coffee shop business. They pictured her serving a couple tea and cake bending right over them and said cake. No gloves, no mask, no shield, breatheing her germs all over. I would have walked out if it was my food she was serving.
shutting the night clubs , sports stadium and Public transport should have been done at the off

 

[farmerm]

Yes they are all getting told to have all the Christmas shopping done by end of this month.

With Flu season around the courner it is very likely some folk may end up on flu wards who have Covid and some with Flu end up on Covid wards. It is frightening to think what might happen to someone who catches both Covid and Flu and the same time...

 

[Yale]

Johnny went to a rave last weekend,by next Monday he will be shedding virus when he goes to grans house to deliver a paper,a week on Monday gran starts with a cough.....but she’s been nowhere.Two weeks today she is feeling really poorly,by the next Wednesday she is on a ventilator.By the weekend she is dead.

So the cases which are incubating now in young people are only going to hit the stats after three weeks......watch out!

 

[Exfarmer]

That is probably what is wrong with the Universities’ policies. They should be encouraging all the kids to go and do their thing now, get it over and done with. As it is the kids will start being very good, but by Christmas have forgotten all such high thoughts and getting back into party life. Just ready to take it home to the family for Christmas

 

[Wellytrack]

Went to shop yesterday, fished mask out of pocket and applied, sanitised hands in the door, fupping ar$ehole of a middle aged woman in sweatpants steamed on through without taking any precautions or measures to prevent transmission.

I wanted to challenge her, and would have if not for the fact she practically trotted through the shop and was moving three times faster than me.

It’s annoying cuz if an absolute idiot like myself can be trained to do it anyone can. I’d forget things 20 times per day. It’s just laziness or inconsideration otherwise.

 

[puppet]

Johnny went to a rave last weekend,by next Monday he will be shedding virus when he goes to grans house to deliver a paper,a week on Monday gran starts with a cough.....but she’s been nowhere.Two weeks today she is feeling really poorly,by the next Wednesday she is on a ventilator.By the weekend she is dead.

So the cases which are incubating now in young people are only going to hit the stats after three weeks......watch out!

Spot on. 1 week for symptoms, another you are hospital and a third you are dead. So once the death rate goes up we already have a lot of cases out there.
In March estimates were that for every death there would have been hundreds of infections, many asymptomatic.

 

[primmiemoo]

Please do have your 'flu jabs, good people. It doesn't matter how solitary we might feel our lives are, we owe it to ourselves to be protected against a potentially fatal illness that we do have effective vaccines for.

 

[toquark]

My suspicion is there has been so much change in what we can and can’t do, particularly here in Scotland vs the rest of the UK (entirely political) that a lot of people, myself included, are fatigued and passed caring. Yes there is a risk you could pass it on to granny but the same risk goes for the flu and every other disease we’ve been living with for generations. We can’t keep going on like this for a disease which only has serious consequences for a very very small proportion of the population.

People should be allowed to make their own risk assessment and the reality is if you are healthy and under 50 the risk is very low. If you aren’t, you take steps to protect yourself.

My genuine fear is that governments risk crying wolf. So when a pandemic comes along which indiscriminately kills 20%, people will have lived through this and not take it seriously until it’s too late.