So Red Tractor has been with us for 23/24years!

Farma Parma

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
still waiting the premium i was promised on my grains

i think it’s beyond proven now as a complete failure

the only option is to scrap it and start again but this time with farmers benefiting as its core principle …….. tell the BRC to “do one” unless they are prepared to PAY

no premium ……. no assurance
Couldnt have summed it up any better
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
It’s a confidence thing. I’ve come to the view that we need nothing more than the legal minimum checks already made by government agencies. If that’s all we had the world would not stop turning, grain lorries would still keep moving grain. Passports would still exist with the present declarations but wouldn’t need an RT sticker.
After about a week RT would be forgotten. The BRC might bitch and moan but they’d just have to suck it up. Leaner, meaner, faster, more efficient. That’s what we need to be if we are to compete globally.
We don’t need a “scheme”. There’s nothing that’s really necessary that isn’t already covered by present legislation and government agency inspections of which we’ve had a few.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
We certainly don’t need to be messing about trying to acquire NRoSO points annually either.
You just wouldn’t last as a bad sprayer driver IMO. It’s a self selecting self ejecting kind of job. Screw up once for an employer and you are likely to be out on your ear. Screw up twice for your own business and you are likely to go bust. We get it right because it’s too expensive not to.
But yet again it’s another of those things like a comfort blanket to the pen pushers. Threaten to take it away and hear them squeal. Country is full of that now though. And nobody has the balls to face it down.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
In fact I know a couple of people who had all the NRoSO points but screwed up big time and got the push for various reasons, often under too much pressure. This idea that NRoSO is like some kind of cloak of infallibility is nonsense but our industry has fallen into the hands of folk who believe in all this stuff.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Just have a grain passport as we have now with maybe a few more “buck stops here” declarations. You need that to make people think and to take food safety seriously and to communicate in store pesticide applications, mycotoxin test results etc. We don’t need all the other rigmarole.
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
Jim Mosley needs to resign along with Christine Tacon - they have absolutely destroyed all confidence from farmers / NFU / AHDB………… and their own board now who they have started blaming publicly!

It has to demonstrate ground up change if it is to survive now and that begins with a change of management to something RADICALLY different

The trouble is, as I see it, is that while it is essential for RT , AHDB and NFU, to work together, they should never have become a 'circle jerk'.
We would all have been so much better off if they had constructively criticised each other.
 

Performer

Member
Arable Farmer
Red Tractor spending £2.5 million on tv advertising, will it do any good.? . As someone else has written on here I went to one of Jonathon Tipples meetings 20 years ago , just because someone tipped some grain against some sleepers with tar on them this whole thing started.I see he was on the PENSION board of the hgca after he left Red Tractor?.
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
Red Tractor spending £2.5 million on tv advertising, will it do any good.? . As someone else has written on here I went to one of Jonathon Tipples meetings 20 years ago , just because someone tipped some grain against some sleepers with tar on them this whole thing started.I see he was on the PENSION board of the hgca after he left Red Tractor?.
The charm offensive has started.
Sarah Cox s voice if i am not mistaken.
I thought better of her.
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David.

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
Sara Cox is one of the good ones, always gives farmers a positive shout out. If they are going to advertise at all, why would they not use the voice of a well known "on side" presenter to put out a positive farming message?
 
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Hay Maker

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Arable Farmer
Red Tractor spending £2.5 million on tv advertising, will it do any good.? . As someone else has written on here I went to one of Jonathon Tipples meetings 20 years ago , just because someone tipped some grain against some sleepers with tar on them this whole thing started.I see he was on the PENSION board of the hgca after he left Red Tractor?.
 
Red Tractor spending £2.5 million on tv advertising, will it do any good.? . As someone else has written on here I went to one of Jonathon Tipples meetings 20 years ago , just because someone tipped some grain against some sleepers with tar on them this whole thing started.I see he was on the PENSION board of the hgca after he left Red Tractor?.


What is their mechanism for finding out how much trickles back to the farmer? How much will Red Tractor grain increase in price as a result of this?
 

Hay Maker

Member
Arable Farmer
Red Tractor spending £2.5 million on tv advertising, will it do any good.? . As someone else has written on here I went to one of Jonathon Tipples meetings 20 years ago , just because someone tipped some grain against some sleepers with tar on them this whole thing started.I see he was on the PENSION board of the hgca after he left Red Tractor?.
Jonathon Tipples is a director of Red Tractor Food Assurance Ltd & was appointed on 16/03/2001.
 

Drillman

Member
Mixed Farmer
What is their mechanism for finding out how much trickles back to the farmer? How much will Red Tractor grain increase in price as a result of this?
There is no mechanism and the answer is ZERO.

Amd that’s where the whole red tractor thing falls apart. We all had the recent rt email about the TV advert and we all know it won’t have any effect on world cereal prices and therefore the rt cereal members gain nothing and as a result it’s just 2.5 million quid wasted.
 

Hay Maker

Member
Arable Farmer
There is no mechanism and the answer is ZERO.

Amd that’s where the whole red tractor thing falls apart. We all had the recent rt email about the TV advert and we all know it won’t have any effect on world cereal prices and therefore the rt cereal members gain nothing and as a result it’s just 2.5 million quid wasted.
All this is attempted brain washing, but i think most farmers know better but will Joe Public?
 

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