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They will try and keep hospitalised casses at around a thousand a day until mid summer i would think
So what is the strategy?
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But essentially we are still going for herd immunity? I guess that is the case because there is no other choice
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They have been all along but trying not to overload things
wanton dwarf
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You do realise these large Nightingale hospitals will be full of the virus ?
I would have thought smaller rooms would have been advantageous .. for example if someone in that 4000 bed hospital has a mutated virus which is deadly .. it's gonna spread.
I would have thought smaller rooms would have been advantageous .. for example if someone in that 4000 bed hospital has a mutated virus which is deadly .. it's gonna spread.
In a couple of weeks if cases start to tail off do you think we will see restrictions eased with the purpose of getting more people infected?
Yes and a terrible environment for medical staff to be in
wanton dwarf
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Yes. I don't see it as the best solution .. more of a had to do it because it's quick ..
farmerm
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Which is a great plan but as you say it is difficult to achieve.. firstly you need lockdown + + + our present lockdown will slow transmission but people still have plenty of opportunity to be infected whilst doing their food shop or other "essential" activities outside home. Secondly even if the virus could be fully contained with no further onward transmission to new vicitms from currently infected people how long until it would be re-imported from elsewhere in the world? China seem to be achieving containment but this virus is now global and present in countries with no hope of fully containing it... can countries work with 21 day quarantines on anyone entering and do this indefinitely? No country on earth is really able to fully secure its borders from undocumented migration..
Hopefully they have decent ventilation i imagine there will be a lot of virus floating about?
Scribus
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Dr Vernon Coleman has been pondering over Covid 19 and rather fears that there may be two main factors driving the scare, the first is the dehumanisation of the elderly, ie normalise the non treatment of the older generation as an economic measure, while the second is to usher in compulsory vaccination, and who knows what we will forced into peoples bodies by future governments. Make of it what you will but there seems to be stirring an alternative view of the situation, and not before time.
Charlie Gill
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I thought the government wanted the elderly to stay at home for 12 weeks so they didn't catch it, ie; to keep them alive.
If I recommended that your newborn had an additional vaccine against cv19 while they were having there mmr jab to prevent them dieing prematurely, with what you know now, would you decline it?
Scribus
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Indeed, Coleman mentions that, shut them out of life, basically go tell them to p!ss off and die was his take on the governments plans. I was not at all happy about the MMR jab, there have been very serious concerns raised over it, but please excuse us the mushy emotive carp by which you are trying to justify compulsory vaccination.
Charlie Gill
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Sorry, I wasn't trying to justify it, I have no need to, it was just a question. Let me word it differently; would you refuse the vaccine ?
Do you not think the elderly are safer at home for a while?
livestock 1
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I think this lockdown is to lower rates of infection to give the nhs time to prepare and so we don’t have too many cases at once.
Boris stayed that he was basically after a 75% reduction in transmission. I think we might be somewhere near. One public health spokesman said the timing of the lockdown was crucial as people would get sick or bored then it would be ineffective.
So the first step is to lower the prospect of loads of sick and dying people at once that won’t get cared for. The next step I have no idea. I think we are all going to get it and we can’t go on like this but that’s just my opinion
Boris stayed that he was basically after a 75% reduction in transmission. I think we might be somewhere near. One public health spokesman said the timing of the lockdown was crucial as people would get sick or bored then it would be ineffective.
So the first step is to lower the prospect of loads of sick and dying people at once that won’t get cared for. The next step I have no idea. I think we are all going to get it and we can’t go on like this but that’s just my opinion
Scribus
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I wont have it.It usually takes years to develope vaccines safely.I would rather take my chance and hope to be like prince charles. How many people are actually making a complete recovery after being put on a ventilator? I think with this one,if your numbers up,your number is up.
I fear you are right, I would like a good few more years but having had asthma since I was three I have no wish to be short of breath for years, it's no fun, if this cold I have is in fact cv and I'm going to be one of the 1% I just hope its quick. Far sooner me than my kids or grandkids.
I'm pretty fit and healthy apart from when I get a cold so I am pretty optimistic that I can throw it off though,??
I think that is my view at the moment.
Yes ventilators, seems to be a bit of misunderstanding from the public that think we can just stick people on a machine for 2 weeks and they will jog out of hospital.
Seems only 50% will survive on one with cv, those that do will have varying degrees of lung damage, some severe. 2 weeks on a ventilator can also cause brain damage.
So its definitely no magic cure. Yet no one is asking these questions. Keeping people alive no matter what state they end up in seems to be all that matters.
Steevo
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Seems the government are now planning a tracking app a bit like they used in China.
news.sky.com
Coronavirus: Govt set to release 'contact tracking' app which detects nearby virus carriers
The app, which will operate on an opt-in basis, will be released either just before or just after the lockdown is lifted.
news.sky.com
Scribus
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No surprises there. As I keep saying, underneath the cloak of respectability the UK is a police state.Seems the government are now planning a tracking app a bit like they used in China.
Coronavirus: Govt set to release 'contact tracking' app which detects nearby virus carriers
The app, which will operate on an opt-in basis, will be released either just before or just after the lockdown is lifted.