Soil pan

[Farmer mk1]

Evening folks,

We plough all our land normally but about 60% is on real good soil but it is heavy yellow clay and the water can’t get away.
There will be about 170 acre ish and wondering what piece of equipment is cost effective and isn’t going to break the bank but will break the clay pan and hopefully will benefit the crops.
There’s another 150 arce on top to do but it’s got a lot of big stones in so something you can lift the legs out of work or just have it set in 5”. With us doing this job then I’d like it to leave it good enough to go straight in with the combi and not plough it all every year.
Any point in the right direction is appreciated.
Thanks

 

[Jsmith2211]

I bought a little two leg subsoiler for that reason. Under a grand with a pair of new legs. Does a good job but very slow. If you can afford it get a shakerator (don’t have to use the pto bit) they do a good job and very well built. If you’ve got more money then get a vaderstadt top down

 

[Farmer mk1]

Would a simba solo do the same as a top down. Top down seems a lot of money but solo looks to get a lot of machine for the money?

 

[Lincs Lass]

How many ponies to play with ,, a spaldings three leg flat lift at 12 inches will get under the pan ,, run it tail down so it it slides of the wings easier

 

[Farmer mk1]

370hp to make use of

 

[snarling bee]

A Topdown is not a subsoiler, more likely to create a pan IME. A Simba Solo is not a subsoiler either.

Use a subsoiler to do a subsoiling job. TWB, Cousins etc etc.

 

[Farmer mk1]

Is there a machine what will do the pan busting job and chop it up in one pass?

 

[Lincs Lass]

Is there a machine what will do the pan busting job and chop it up in one pass?

Simba X-press

 

[teslacoils]

Is there a machine what will do the pan busting job and chop it up in one pass?

Depends how many hp and diesel. For 170ac, get a contractor in. There's no money in draught work.

 

[jed]

Plus one for Spaldings flat lift replaced ours with a Horsch joker which doesn’t seem to be the pan buster that the flat lift was.
But the Horsch does win in other areas

 

[teslacoils]

Have to say I like the flatlift much more since we junked the crappy cousins Roman nose points, and got some Metcalf legs on it. Less diesel, better job.

 

[snarling bee]

Simba X-press

Where are the subsoiler legs in that?

 

[Lincs Lass]

How thick is the clay ,,

Where are the subsoiler legs in that?

Only thing Ive seen thats got legs and two rows of discs

 

[teslacoils]

Simba X-press

Dtx for the subsoiler. Again, get Metcalf legs in it.

 

[KB6930]

Sumo trio legs will go about 6inch to about 16 inch but takes a lot of pulling

 

[Lincs Lass]

How thick is the clay ,,if its a layer over good draining then its worth try to bust the pan but if its silly deep , water wont get away no matter how deep you rip it

 

[alomy75]

Dtx for the subsoiler. Again, get Metcalf legs in it.

Simba do a LD leg for the dtx also

 

[alomy75]

How many ponies to play with ,, a spaldings three leg flat lift at 12 inches will get under the pan ,, run it tail down so it it slides of the wings easier

I assume you mean there is adjustable rake on the legs? Not that you run the whole machine tail down!

 

[Lincs Lass]

I assume you mean there is adjustable rake on the legs? Not that you run the whole machine tail down!

Place I was only only had 130hp but running it with a longer top link was enough to make it pull easier ,at 10 inches on heavy land , it was a slow job .

 

[alomy75]

Place I was only only had 130hp but running it with a longer top link was enough to make it pull easier ,at 10 inches on heavy land , it was a slow job .

So the front leg doesn’t go as deep as the back legs then?!