Stabiliser bull?

[JSmith]

thanks everyone for all your replies, I’ve given the bull a miss now as from what most of you have said don’t think it will suit how we sell our stores! Also the man said the calves would be better kept as bulls for selling purposes and that also put me off, don’t want a load of horny young bull calves riding heifers about!! Funnily enough the bloke said it wouldn’t be a problem as they wouldn’t serve them!!?? dear oh dear

 

[Ted M]

Be very careful of the temperament. Next door neighbour bought 15 hfrs ready for bulling from a well known breeder, and 2 years later none of them are on the farm. 3 never even made it to the bull, remaining 12 were calved and sold as soon as he could get them near a trailer. Maddest animals I ve ever set eyes on.

Crikey, they don't even sound like the same breed as we have.
Ours are all pretty quiet apart from the odd one that can be a bit protective after calving but settles down after a day or two.
The only thing I can suggest is the lad we had ours off originally has 2 herds on 2 farms.
One lot are fed and bed by hand, the other by feeder wagon and straw chopper.
The one lot are apparently not as quiet as the other but not too the degree some people are suggesting on here.

 

[TS2]

Been running Stabilisers on my small herd for 8 years now. ( onto 3rd bull), I have to say they are a pleasure to work with compared to previous continental breed. I tag all my calves within 3 days with cow standing watching. I do agree you need to have a market for your male stores. I finish mine as bulls. - ave age 13.3 months weight 382 kg. all U3 or U4.

 

[Agrivator]

Been running Stabilisers on my small herd for 8 years now. ( onto 3rd bull), I have to say they are a pleasure to work with compared to previous continental breed. I tag all my calves within 3 days with cow standing watching. I do agree you need to have a market for your male stores. I finish mine as bulls. - ave age 13.3 months weight 382 kg. all U3 or U4.

It's worth pointing out that of the stockmen I know who have been badly mauled by a cow when tagging the calf, were under the impression that it was a quiet cow.

There is no doubt that it can be safer to work with a cow that you know is a lunatic who would kill you if it could.

 

[digger64]

Be very careful of the temperament. Next door neighbour bought 15 hfrs ready for bulling from a well known breeder, and 2 years later none of them are on the farm. 3 never even made it to the bull, remaining 12 were calved and sold as soon as he could get them near a trailer. Maddest animals I ve ever set eyes on.

And you breed lims or something and feel sort of threatened by any chance by their arrival in the market place ?
Now I understand where the expression bull**** comes from .

 

[midlifecrisis]

I've personally ran Stabilisers for almost 7 years now. Started with 3 different sourced animal groups and have not experienced much of the wild gene thankfully. Although I do cull for anything with attitude including family lines as I don't have back up and could be lying somewhere for a while before the family twigs on lol.
So I've ended up with a quiet herd that holds condition really well. Biggest bother for me is to keep the cows from going overfat so they don't get a lot through the winter, could do with a hill somewhere to winter them cheap!
Calving tends not to be too stressful and I do 2/3rds of it on the turf, weather dependent.
As a few have said stores sales can be penalised which is odd since they tend to look just like a good AA, but then without the premium of course. Hence I've now split to use Stab to keep refreshing the herd and an AA for the passport purposes.

 

[Bob the beef]

And you breed lims or something and feel sort of threatened by any chance by their arrival in the market place ?
Now I understand where the expression bull**** comes from .

Why the fudge would I feel threatened??????
Bizarre reply

not my stock , couldn’t give a damn. Just help the lad out with handling occasionally. Only my opinion of the cattle , but like I say they are all gone. The lad was looking for an out cross from his 7/8 limmys. Now crossing them with a shorthorn and getting on really well