Stick plastic to metal

[tomlad]

One of the glove outers , don't know propper name is loose .
Presumably was glued before ,whats left is like a red silicone, what should I re attach with , one of the so called sticks all silicones ??

Id usually try pu tiger but is that too good? Don't honestly know if i need to remove it again in the future.

Hole obviously for the glove, blast cabinet.
I don't think i need to remove the ring to change glove, jubilee on inside

 

[tomlad]

Stuck it with this
See it it lasts
Happened to have some

 

[tinman]

I used to work as a service engineer for a crowd that made forestry machines,
they converter a lot of 814 jcb's at the time to take forestry heads, new engines, double pumps, extra hyd tank and so on.
the hyd tank on them had a inspection/drain hatch on the underside of the tank, the kind that bolted from the inside out, it used to be sealed with tiger pu and then torqued down in house.

I mind a lad ringing in one time who was looking to get access to the tank, he pulled out the M8 bolts but couldn't get the lid off, seemingly he tried a lot of ways to get the plate off but gave up and rang us up to see what the story was., he was under the impression it was welded from the inside.

I was chatting to him, he said he even had tried a jack and a block of wood and all he was doing was pushing the bottom of the tank up.
so to answer your question, is tiger pu that good, if its applied correctly, then yeah, its as good as it gets...

Ive used that EBT on roofs here, its good stuff but in fairness, anything from SIKA is good imo.
what you have there is under no pressure so it ill be perfect id say, as long as you prepped it well beforehand.

 

[tomlad]

After i posted i grabbed the silicone gun , Forgotten it was loaded with the sika so used it. Forgot i had it tbh. I thought, think if i tigered it might never come off , not that i can see atm why id want to remove it.
Cleaned the metal with brake cleaner so hopefully clean, see tomorrow if its still stuck.
Cheers

 

[davedb]

I used to work as a service engineer for a crowd that made forestry machines,
they converter a lot of 814 jcb's at the time to take forestry heads, new engines, double pumps, extra hyd tank and so on.
the hyd tank on them had a inspection/drain hatch on the underside of the tank, the kind that bolted from the inside out, it used to be sealed with tiger pu and then torqued down in house.

I mind a lad ringing in one time who was looking to get access to the tank, he pulled out the M8 bolts but couldn't get the lid off, seemingly he tried a lot of ways to get the plate off but gave up and rang us up to see what the story was., he was under the impression it was welded from the inside.

I was chatting to him, he said he even had tried a jack and a block of wood and all he was doing was pushing the bottom of the tank up.
so to answer your question, is tiger pu that good, if its applied correctly, then yeah, its as good as it gets...

Ive used that EBT on roofs here, its good stuff but in fairness, anything from SIKA is good imo.
what you have there is under no pressure so it ill be perfect id say, as long as you prepped it well beforehand.

Interesting line of work with the forestry conversion have you any pictures? Interesting what you used to do swapping engines for bigger ones with the bigger pumps?

 

[tinman]

Interesting line of work with the forestry conversion have you any pictures? Interesting what you used to do swapping engines for bigger ones with the bigger pumps?

tbh Dave i don't, it was a time before taking pictures of everything tbh.
we converted 814's mainly to take the forestry heads they made themselves, removed the engine and put in a Perkins 6 cyl with her original pump and a new vickers variable displacement pump mounted off the front pulley, a second hyd tank for it to run the head and a smaller tank for the urea.
the stick of the boom was used as a tank for the chain oil to supply the saw chain.
they also converted hitachi diggers for bog use, cut the tracks off just at the slew ring and extended them by 18" and put 1200mm pads on them, the undercarriage was made wider to suit the pads and raised them up by 24" so the operator could see into the hoppers of the self propelled 12 sod turf hoppers they also made.
they ran on 6 pot scania engines with a triple head gearbox for 3 hyd pumps and were built from scratch in house.
the digger would load it at the bog face and the sp hopper could track anywhere to lay the sods.
they used to buy fire damaged norcar forwarders and redo them as their own, new cabs ,crane, engine, hydraulics and such, they just used the chassis.
they made tractor drawn turf hoppers and 3pt linkage ones as well, they were related to a red well known brand of turf cutter so had all the drawings after they shut shop in an earlier life.
they made the big vacuum trailed units as well for peat moss, they just hoovered up the peat off the ground after it was worked.
they made a few self propelled harvesters as well but not that many.
interesting job at the time alright.

 

[tomlad]

Had a quick play yesterday, ring seems stuck, put glove back on , not fell out yet .
May need new gloves , wrist gone very stiff ,brittle, see what happens, not been able to hook up to compressor yet , different buildings, fishery mad busy now people can fish . Business definitely stopping workshop play , not impressed.

 

[tinman]

Yes, but its the business that pays for the workshop play so best keep it up...

 

[tomlad]

Indeed

U sound like our lass now mate

 

[davedb]

tbh Dave i don't, it was a time before taking pictures of everything tbh.
we converted 814's mainly to take the forestry heads they made themselves, removed the engine and put in a Perkins 6 cyl with her original pump and a new vickers variable displacement pump mounted off the front pulley, a second hyd tank for it to run the head and a smaller tank for the urea.
the stick of the boom was used as a tank for the chain oil to supply the saw chain.
they also converted hitachi diggers for bog use, cut the tracks off just at the slew ring and extended them by 18" and put 1200mm pads on them, the undercarriage was made wider to suit the pads and raised them up by 24" so the operator could see into the hoppers of the self propelled 12 sod turf hoppers they also made.
they ran on 6 pot scania engines with a triple head gearbox for 3 hyd pumps and were built from scratch in house.
the digger would load it at the bog face and the sp hopper could track anywhere to lay the sods.
they used to buy fire damaged norcar forwarders and redo them as their own, new cabs ,crane, engine, hydraulics and such, they just used the chassis.
they made tractor drawn turf hoppers and 3pt linkage ones as well, they were related to a red well known brand of turf cutter so had all the drawings after they shut shop in an earlier life.
they made the big vacuum trailed units as well for peat moss, they just hoovered up the peat off the ground after it was worked.
they made a few self propelled harvesters as well but not that many.
interesting job at the time alright.

Very interesting I’ve got a 1990 814 super with the big pump sounds like you were basically making these before there time obviously with a few other extras, I’ve seen a few on the net with forestry conversions I wounder why they were the popular choice

 

[tomlad]

Mates dosan we believe is ex forestry from Lloyds penrith way , got steel running boards around the cab . Had fuel starvation issues wen first got it . Fitter said check in a valve, i think it was primer above the filters, from memory.
Rubber diaphragm , flap valve had pine needles in it . 17 t with blade .
Also had issues with tracks binding, had to be stripped, re greased, presumably from forestry crap. New machine to track wen re fitted. Tracks sent for full pins bushes, come back greased and mended, bit less money . He was relieved.

 

[tinman]

Mates dosan we believe is ex forestry from Lloyds penrith way , got steel running boards around the cab . Had fuel starvation issues wen first got it . Fitter said check in a valve, i think it was primer above the filters, from memory.
Rubber diaphragm , flap valve had pine needles in it . 17 t with blade .
Also had issues with tracks binding, had to be stripped, re greased, presumably from forestry crap. New machine to track wen re fitted. Tracks sent for full pins bushes, come back greased and mended, bit less money . He was relieved.

Very interesting I’ve got a 1990 814 super with the big pump sounds like you were basically making these before there time obviously with a few other extras, I’ve seen a few on the net with forestry conversions I wounder why they were the popular choice

i mind one time a brand spank new atlas cumming in for a conversion,
a real nice AIR cooled engine in it too....
they converted her alright and 2 months later she came back on a low loader burnt to a crisp bar the forestry head on her.
she got that hot when she burned that it made it all the way to the stick but hadn't went much further saving the head bar a few bits and pieces on it.
i often wondered after how that finance deal went... suffice as to say, air cooled engines, pine needles and dry forestry conditions dont mix well.

the 814's would of been easily converted and at the time weren't big money so that would of been tempting more than anything.
they converted a few volvos as well.
i went to Scotland to a machine that had broke down, the operator had hit the button to de limb the tree while it was pointing at the cab, he must of got such a shock when he seen it cumming at him he didnt have toe sense to let the button go and she wheeled the thick end of the tree through the 16mm marguard in the windscreen and butted it up against the seat, he was lucky to still have his legs.
i didnt get there til the next day and he was still as white as a sheet.
they were interesting times, good experience tho.