Stomach drench pumps

[farmer1989]

Looking to drench all our fresh calved cows if they dont drink them self been looking around at types most of which look like aggers manual pump in a buket find them a bit of a faff is there any on wheels and why not an electric pump ?

 

[More to life]

Why?

 

[jimmer]

I've killed a bloody good cow pumping her for no good reason other than a ridiculous protocol
The benefits of fresh cow drinks are tenuous, let alone pumping them

 

[Beef farmer]

Sounds like the worse new years resolution I've heard to date

 

[jimmer]

I'd rather congratulate with feaces

 

[farmer1989]

We give all new calvers a bucket electro lights drink vet says if they dont take to it should pump it we also pump alot of mastitis cows and sick cows lowered our medicine use dramatically never killed a cow in 3 generations as long as it's done correctly should be no problems usa pump everything as a matter of protocol not going that far prefer free choice but if you stomach tube a new born calf at birth how is it any different for mum

 

[jimmer]

I can't show you hard evidence, but I have spoken to many who have said tubing calves as a matter of course increased issues later on with scours and respiratory problems, over suckling colostrum from dam or teat feeder
I've been there and done it with the fresh cow drinks, honestly can't say I've seen any difference when not used other than financially better off

 

[farmerste]

I can't show you hard evidence, but I have spoken to many who have said tubing calves as a matter of course increased issues later on with scours and respiratory problems, over suckling colostrum from dam or teat feeder

spent a couple of years tubing every calf after vet persuaded me to do it, gone back to bottle feeding now and found calves have fewer problems

 

[lazy farmer]

Bringing the thread back on track. Which is the best pump. We don’t have once and we really should for that sick cow or that hard calving we occasionally get. If nothing else I want to further cut our reliance on antibiotics.

 

[M-J-G]

When I saw this thread title, I thought someone's planning ahead for a hell of a party tonight.

 

[M-J-G]

If cows need tubed after calving because they don't drink it sounds like cows are getting very soft these days. I can understand tubing an ill cow, but if things are at a stage where a cow can't calve down and have a drink and go on and thrive I think a lot of culling needs done.

 

[vantage]

If a cow needs pumping because she’s ill that’s fine.
Pumping every cow post calving is just making work and stressing the cow.

 

[vantage]

I'd rather congratulate with feaces

Ah, got it now. The same as clapping one’s hands full of sh!t.

 

[deleted user 837354]

Bringing the thread back on track. Which is the best pump. We don’t have once and we really should for that sick cow or that hard calving we occasionally get. If nothing else I want to further cut our reliance on antibiotics.

Might be worth asking the vet.

Cow would have to be properly ill before most would consider pumping it?

Was told year and years ago by proper old cow man that a bucket of warm water with electrolytes in it is normally enough to tempt a cow that has had a hard time calving.

 

[More to life]

I try another approach, if you feel that routine pumping of fresh cows is beneficial can I suggest you first look at your dry cow nutrition. Sorry to be so blunt but this fits firmly in the area of fairy dust.

 

[Dead Rabbits]

I reckon a McGrath is what you would be after. @eulb uses one I think.

An electric pump would scare me

 

[More to life]

To be helpful we use a skelet pump for sick cows, it’s plastic not stainless like many of the vets have. We’ve probably had it 3 or 4 years I’ve found it very easy to use and feel it kind to the cow and safe to use

 

[deleted user 837354]

To be helpful we use a skelet pump for sick cows, it’s plastic not stainless like many of the vets have. We’ve probably had it 3 or 4 years I’ve found it very easy to use and feel it kind to the cow and safe to use

I reckon that is the one my wife has. That stainless steel thingy version struck me as a bit much- probably doubles as an anti-intruder device it is so heavy.

 

[Milkcow365]

I’ve a metal one il get a picture in the morning,
Bought it when I had a bad go of ecoli, only used it 2 times but then used it tonight for a cow that had twins save me any grief tomorrow.

 

[buffalo_soldier]

Empty vodka bottles here.

Low tech, can have several ready to go and prompts a little and often approach.
And it's fun emptying the bottles initially ?