Stop helping Putin

[Vader]

Russia never really been bothered about casualties
Once upon a time that would have been very true. In the first world war only those in the front got rifles the ones behind picked up theirs from those wwho got killed. The civil war probably much the same and in the second world war there’d be a commisar behind ready to shoot those who weren’t so keen but Afghanistan was lost because the public were n’t keen of people getting killed and coming home maimed and now with a declining birthrate and lots of small families Putin can’t afford a high casualty rate. Lot’s of families with only one child means support might not last long.

Was still a shortage of guns early on ww2, so was same pick up from killed in front.
The public might not like the casualties, but its the leaders who dont care...

 

[Ffermer Bach]

We all should feel sorry for the people soldiers and civilians being killed but really there's only one person to blame and that's Putin there can never be an excuse for what he's done.

I blame the whole political leadership in Russia, not just Putin

 

[Lowland1]

I blame the whole political leadership in Russia, not just Putin

Putin is the whole political leadership. I’d imagine any discussion on invading Ukraine would have been.
‘All those in favour say Da all those against say Nyet. All those saying Nyet the bus for Siberia leaves in five minutes.’

 

[Pilatus]

Putin is the whole political leadership. I’d imagine any discussion on invading Ukraine would have been.
‘All those in favour say Da all those against say Nyet. All those saying Nyet the bus for Siberia leaves in five minutes.’

I think it was on the first day of the invasion,their was a short video clip
of Putin almost mocking , ( I think it was hi spy chief) when he was just slightly hesitant in agreeing with Putin, on the Ukrainian invasion.!!!!! .
I wouldn’t be surprised if that spy chief or who ever is , may now definitely be a “was”.!!!!
So entirely agree with what you say.

 

[essexpete]

No gas here of any type.apart from a propane bottle in the workshop.
Dont have central heating never have.
log burner in front room and a blanket on yer knees when its bitter.
i converted the oil rayburn in the kitchen thatd oes the hot water back to solid wood/bit of antrhacite couple of years after 9/11 when oil was getting dearer and dearer .
gas and oil came about because most were too lazy to do the manual work of sold
too many softies around these days that have had too much money to spend lol.

Probably most farm and/or rural households have the ability to do what you are doing to a degree. Do you think many town folk have that possibility?

 

[essexpete]

Yes but they can only burn ‘so much’. The reason for concern is clear. Russia supplies more than half of Germany’s gas, half of its coal and roughly a third of its oil.

The German government has abdicated its responsibility to its country. It absolutely cannot function without Russian energy, because such vast amounts just cannot be sourced from elsewhere in the short to medium term. We are talking years not months. America and other countries have warned them privately and publicly of their vulnerability ever since they decided, after Fukushima, to close their perfectly good nuclear power stations.

Talking to a a retired nuclear fuel metallurgist back in the autumn, he was predicting big energy issues in the UK before even thinking about the current situation. His words were "no joined up thinking from the top down in successive governments". He felt we are 30 years behind in nuclear power. The coal stations have mostly been destroyed thanks to pandering to the green lobby but could have been kept as backup.
Until very recently I had no idea that some of the large grid transformer stations have gas powered turbine generators set up feeding from gas main. These turbines kick in during peak demand.

 

[Christoph1945]

I blame the whole political leadership in Russia, not just Putin

Funny you should say that; I always thought that Adolf Hitler wasn't on his own!

 

[Lincsman]

Talking to a a retired nuclear fuel metallurgist back in the autumn, he was predicting big energy issues in the UK before even thinking about the current situation. His words were "no joined up thinking from the top down in successive governments". He felt we are 30 years behind in nuclear power. The coal stations have mostly been destroyed thanks to pandering to the green lobby but could have been kept as backup.
Until very recently I had no idea that some of the large grid transformer stations have gas powered turbine generators set up feeding from gas main. These turbines kick in during peak demand.

About 1/3 of electric is currently from gas, it has been used for about 30 years now, up the road one was scrapped a few years ago as it was worn out.

I always thought it was a bad idea as getting coal to a power station is easy , but piping coal to houses is difficult.

 

[DrWazzock]

About 1/3 of electric is currently from gas, it has been used for about 30 years now, up the road one was scrapped a few years ago as it was worn out.

I always thought it was a bad idea as getting coal to a power station is easy , but piping coal to houses is difficult.

This is what people just don't understand. During the last war, many towns had a coal fuelled "gas works". Destroying the nations energy grid wasn't an easy task. It had resilience due to its dispersed nature. Many homes were still directly coal heated.
Now, if you were to bomb just maybe half a dozen gas pipeline terminals and half a dozen oil refineries you would bring this or any other western country to a very rapid and irreversible (in the short term) halt.
At the time, the "dash for (north sea) gas" (power generation) came about due to a reluctance to ever again be held to ransom by coal miners and also concerns about acid rain, heavy metals and to a lesser extent global warming.
We thought it was a mistake at the time, with most engineers considering natural gas to be squandered as a source of electrical power and heating. We thought it should have been conserved as a feedstock for manufacturing products such as fertilisers, polymers etc, for which coal is a much less easily used and less pure raw material.
Using gas to generate power and heat your home is a bit like throwing a Stradivarius onto the fire to warm yourself from a resource point of view.

 

[DrWazzock]

It would be far better to use more domestic waste to heat and power the country rather than persist with recycling nonsense.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Probably most farm and/or rural households have the ability to do what you are doing to a degree. Do you think many town folk have that possibility?

No they don't of course , yes i aimed at land occupiers/farmers sort of type... (as long as trees will grow there) poor job if a modest area of poorer land awkward corners and bits cant be set back and managed for growing wood to burn, when its dry its a pretty efficient heat source.


mind you Plenty of insulation grants have been offered in recent years ,and newer houses building methods and materials are much better in that respect floors/walls /lofts / windows .

Could go even further, with less windows in houses ,and definitely towards prevailing /cold winds directing like houses were built yrs ago. Or maybe shutters used like were in alpine regions etc.

and for all but the vulnerable , babies elderly infirm central heating is not necessary, its unnatural , a bedroom for instance only needs to be draft free well insulated and good quality eiderdown continental quilt (s) on bed with a 3rd ready for really cold times at the bottom for feet
and larder area s for storing food ditto, having fridges and freezers in heated rooms doesn't make sense at all.

When things are cheap and easy people don't think about them properly.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Ukraine war: Boris Johnson calls on Western nations to 'take back control' of energy supplies to end 'addiction' to Russian oil and gas

Boris Johnson's call comes ahead of his expected trip to Saudi Arabia, which the PM reportedly hopes will help persuade the kingdom to boost its own production of oil and gas.

news.sky.com

 

[zero]

Think I've heard that "take back control" line somewhere before...

 

[2wheels]

Merkel needed green party on her side to stay in power so had to do what they wanted.

just like scotland.

 

[Christoph1945]

Who needs our help?

Last night I was watching some battle footages and observed a tank and an armored personnel carrier being obliterated within seconds and the thoughts of all those young guys being turned into toast within seconds was very moving.

As I understand things, most of the attacking Russian soldiers are not volunteers or professional soldiers but are conscripts that are drafted and in many cases mislead.

Where have all the flowers gons, long time passing; where have all flowers gone long time ago?

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

Who needs our help?

Last night I was watching some battle footages and observed a tank and an armored personnel carrier being obliterated within seconds and the thoughts of all those young guys being turned into toast within seconds was very moving.

As I understand things, most of the attacking Russian soldiers are not volunteers or professional soldiers but are conscripts that are drafted and in many cases mislead.

Where have all the flowers gons, long time passing; where have all flowers gone long time ago?

Yes very moving.
It don't say much for the Russians, when part of their combat fleet, mobile crematorium, to burn their own bodies to hide the job up

 

[Christoph1945]

Yes very moving.
It don't say much for the Russians, when part of their combat fleet, mobile crematorium, to burn their own bodies to hide the job up

I am deeply saddened by the loss of life on all side and view the players in Ukraine (on both sides) as pawns being moved, manipulate, and sacrificed by their grand masters in their offices in Washington and Moscow.

 

[Christoph1945]

Just seen the news that the president of the Ukraine has said that his country will 'never' join NATO; not that I blame him but why the muck didn't he say that in the first place?

 

[Henarar]

I am deeply saddened by the loss of life on all side and view the players in Ukraine (on both sides) as pawns being moved, manipulate, and sacrificed by their grand masters in their offices in Washington and Moscow.

this war malarkey went wrong when the leaders stopped leading from the front,
if they want a war then p1ss off out the office and have one

 

[Lowland1]

Just seen the news that the president of the Ukraine has said that his country will 'never' join NATO; not that I blame him but why the muck didn't he say that in the first place?

Why should he. He is the democratically elected leader of a sovereign state. Circumstances may have forced his hand at present but he is not to blame there’s only one person to blame and that’s Putin. The sooner he’s dead the better.