T1

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
T1 0.75 Tracker + 0.5 Adexar + 1 CTL. Should sort the eyespot risk and give a good dose of epoxi. 1 Aviator + 1 CTL on dirtier KWS Lili. CCC and magnesium with all of them and 0.1 Moddus on the Siskin as it is always leggy.
 

ZXR17

Member
Location
South Dorset
0.9 l/ha Aviator
1.0 l/ha Bravo
1.3 l/ha CCC
Applied last night and this morning to Zyatt drilled 10 th October .
Crusoe drilled end of October is a week away .
Started mid flowering spray on OSR this afternoon .
 
My opinion is that last season the cold winter did for disease more than the spring drought.

Might be my memory, but we had colder temperatures this winter than last (-8 celcius IIRC) Also, last spring much wetter up to this point. I remember being in a panic at T1 last year with catchy weather and quite a bit of rain about (will check rain records). This year we have had so little rain recently. I cannot see any active septoria. If ever there was to be a low pressure year (to date at least), it would surely be now. From looking very closely at the CTL + epoxi programmes in your trials (on sites which have higher disease pressure than my area), I cannot see how one could justify doing more than CTL + epoxi at T1 on Siskin and Zyatt given that there is now almost no rain on the forecast and the epoxi will do the YR nicely. What am I missing?
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Ctl / teb going on started today plan to be done before Easter weekend

It’s not t1 as too early and not t0 as too late ....... it’s simply the right time to get some cheap protection on ahead of a more mixed forecast next week
 

Farmer T

Member
Location
East Midlands
Ctl / teb going on started today plan to be done before Easter weekend

It’s not t1 as too early and not t0 as too late ....... it’s simply the right time to get some cheap protection on ahead of a more mixed forecast next week

That’s what I’ve been doing today with some wild oat killer added in. Looks clean for now but seemed right to take some cheap insurance at the same time.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Leaf 3 not quite 3/4 out on Siskin but given the forecast I'll get it done at the end of this week. None of the tillers have much leaf 3 out and there's will be more of them than main stems at harvest but I'd hate to be shut down for a week so IMO it's better to be 2 days early than a week late. Graham and Lili are further behind - later sown and slower developing.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
not put any fungicides on costello or zyatt yet, its had trace elements and pacifica, should i be worried?

Depends on pressure in your area I guess - it’s dry here, pressure is low but I wanted to get trace elements and foliar K on so given current forecast for (I hope) sone rain next week adding some cheap fungicide seemed prudent
 
Depends on pressure in your area I guess - it’s dry here, pressure is low but I wanted to get trace elements and foliar K on so given current forecast for (I hope) sone rain next week adding some cheap fungicide seemed prudent

Rain forecast next week seems to have all but disappeared from the forecast here. Last year I said when it got dry that it was when it was nice to have heavy land, then we had the best yields from the light land (go figure). At the moment again I'm feeling happier about having heavy land, but whether it'll count for anything this year is another matter.
 

Banana Bar

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Bury St Edmunds
I was just asking dad about fungicide regeimes 15-20 years ago. He said he did 3 sprays but it costs very little and worked. He said yields havnt really gone up. Why is research time being spent by the likes of Yen on ridiculous 6 spray programs and these extreme questionable incredibly marginal gains? I can’t help but think this whole route is a dead end and we need to re-think how we manage these crops.

Totally agree, I can just remember our first 10 t/ ha crop, I must of been about 8 yrs old. 10 t is still a marker, one we often pass but often miss. I cannot be bothered with YEN, apart from anything else my sprayer is too busy!
T1 applied on about 40% of the wheat. Think the rest might miss it if conditions continue as they are.
 

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
Totally agree, I can just remember our first 10 t/ ha crop, I must of been about 8 yrs old. 10 t is still a marker, one we often pass but often miss. I cannot be bothered with YEN, apart from anything else my sprayer is too busy!
T1 applied on about 40% of the wheat. Think the rest might miss it if conditions continue as they are.
It’s very commendable what people like Tim lamnyman can do on their souls and geographic position. It’s utterly worthless using that as an example for the majority of us to follow however.
Our T1 probably ready on abit of earlier drilled stuff, will go through beginning of next week. More worried about getting on my snake oils though!
 

farmerfred86

Member
BASIS
Location
Suffolk
It’s very commendable what people like Tim lamnyman can do on their souls and geographic position. It’s utterly worthless using that as an example for the majority of us to follow however.
Our T1 probably ready on abit of earlier drilled stuff, will go through beginning of next week. More worried about getting on my snake oils though!

Is everyone dropping 3C (or other PGR) at T1? Majority of plants now showing stress and it seems daft to apply PGR with the forecast ahead?!
 

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