This farming life

[Bobthebuilder]

You can if you go across the border

Fine if it’s work related

 

[JP1]

Fine if it’s work related

Think he means there are places North of Northumberland ........ meaning Scotland

 

[steveR]

Knew him through UKBA, a forerunner of all the web forums I guess.

Top chap all round. Didn't he win an award recently??

Yep. https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/...r-jim-webster-presented-cla-presidents-award/

Still think he was the "model" for the Farmer in Shaun the Sheep....

 

[2wheels]

You can if you go across the border

the land of real sheep and hard men? her dogs will sort the sheep, the wives sort the men.

 

[Bobthebuilder]

Think he means there are places North of Northumberland ........ meaning Scotland

So do i

 

[egbert]

All cattle can kick but the belted Galloways we have can aim first

Don't have any more or less trouble with the belts.

It is deffo hereditary though.

We've descendants of a riggit bull who kicked backwards like a horse. The offspring do likewise, and its still visible 2-3 generations on.
It was a plain as a pikestaff...his offspring kicked backwards.

 

[Agrivator]

An animal (or human) which is well fed and treated kindly, particularly in early life, tends to be quieter and better natured than if it had been malnourished and treated harshly. A lot of individuals in hill breeds come into the latter category.

And once an animal is regarded as being a bit jumpy, it is treated as such, and depending on the attitude of its handler, becomes even jumpier.

 

[Old Tup]

An animal (or human) which is well fed and treated kindly, particularly in early life, tends to be quieter and better natured than if it had been malnourished and treated harshly. A lot of individuals in hill breeds come into the latter category.

And once an animal is regarded as being a bit jumpy, it is treated as such, and depending on the attitude of its handler, becomes even jumpier.

Nothing like theory!

 

[egbert]

An animal (or human) which is well fed and treated kindly, particularly in early life, tends to be quieter and better natured than if it had been malnourished and treated harshly. A lot of individuals in hill breeds come into the latter category.

And once an animal is regarded as being a bit jumpy, it is treated as such, and depending on the attitude of its handler, becomes even jumpier.

What has the feeding/nutrition got to do with it?
My cows sometimes enjoy very hard doing under my haphazard regime, but generally remain quiet and dopey,
while I know plenty of very good feeders who have animals climbing the walls.

I think you might be making the association cos some 'seldom seen hill stock' that happen to be live a tough life, are also happen to be handled less.
But it's nought to do with their feed. My cows out on 26,000 acres p1ss poor common come gallumphing up to me as a rule.

But you're right about 'giving a dog a bad name' though. If the handler is afraid of em, and treats em like wild animals..that's what they'll likely be.

 

[JP1]

An animal (or human) which is well fed and treated kindly, particularly in early life, tends to be quieter and better natured than if it had been malnourished and treated harshly. A lot of individuals in hill breeds come into the latter category.

And once an animal is regarded as being a bit jumpy, it is treated as such, and depending on the attitude of its handler, becomes even jumpier.

Not always

 

[neilo]

An animal (or human) which is well fed and treated kindly, particularly in early life, tends to be quieter and better natured than if it had been malnourished and treated harshly. A lot of individuals in hill breeds come into the latter category.

And once an animal is regarded as being a bit jumpy, it is treated as such, and depending on the attitude of its handler, becomes even jumpier.

Are you trying to distract from the Limmy’s genetic propensity for being a highly strung fruit loop by any chance?

 

[livestock 1]

Are you trying to distract from the Limmy’s genetic propensity for being a highly strung fruit loop by any chance?

That’s very good quite funny

 

[Agrivator]

An animal (or human) which is well fed and treated kindly, particularly in early life, tends to be quieter and better natured than if it had been malnourished and treated harshly. A lot of individuals in hill breeds come into the latter category.

And once an animal is regarded as being a bit jumpy, it is treated as such, and depending on the attitude of its handler, becomes even jumpier.

Nothing like theory!

It's well established that nutritional deprivation in early life has a deleterious effect on brain development. And it's not unreasonable to conclude that poor brain development can have an effect on intelligence and behaviour in later life.

And don't talk to me about intelligence and behavioural problems. I've been to Leeds.

 

[Suffolk Serf]

In my experience with pigs it is clearly genetic. For many years we were breeding our own gilts using dam line semen from company A, the offspring were very highly strung and flighty and needed careful handling. For various reasons we switched to using dam line semen from company B. The system changed in no other way, staff remained the same, the resulting progeny are absolute honeys. With progeny A, if you stepped into their paddock they spooked and ran in the opposite direction, progeny B take no notice and then come towards you, they are actually a nuisance when trying to move them.
Clearly animals are handled does make a difference but it is a lot easier if you start with good genetics.

 

[egbert]

It's well established that nutritional deprivation in early life has a deleterious effect on brain development. And it's not unreasonable to conclude that poor brain development can have an effect on intelligence and behaviour in later life.

And don't talk to me about intelligence and behavioural problems. I've been to Leeds.

well, it's certainly true that none of my Galloways have ever learnt to read.