Trailed vs Self Propelled Sprayer

[Spud]

You do know there are better trailers in Yorkshire don't you Spud?!

Really? I've used a fair selection and found Mr Easterby's to have the correct geometry for tipping into the grader, low depreciation and running costs and sensible purchase price to be perfectly sufficient for the work we do (12months of the year!) ..and I'm not anywhere near fashionable enough for the fancy fandango super trailers that some like to drag about for a few weeks in the sunshine...I like to be able to see into a trailer for a start!!

 

[Mr Charisma]

Murray Allen - up near Harrogate, top bloke.

Never met him but have to say that he has been excellent at keeping our Chaviot 2000 running as and when we needed spares always turning up the following day

 

[Mr Charisma]

Undecided but I think I wil probsbaly stay at 24m /4000 L - I don't want to get too heavy

In combination with a semi retired Bateman and bowser /pre mix backup that's a fair bit of capacity

Seems a sensible option ,,,,,, best of both worlds at your finger tips then .

Tho it will be interesting to see if your dragged out of 'early retirement' to navigate the 'spare' machine ,
If regular servicing is undertaken I can't see why one of these machines isn't capable of many many thousand hours ,,,,,,, let's face it , there's a lot worse place to spend a day than sat in a rb 35

 

[Mr Charisma]

I've read your previous posts about your chaviot with interest. You obviously like it!

Was just wondering what sprayer you have now?

I treated myself to a 2008 Househam AR

Last year I could boast one of the cheapest application rates of anywhere in the country ,,,,,,,, allas that is no longer the case but I do have a much more comfy environment than before , tis nice to be sat on a comfy air seat rather than hitting the cab floor every time I jumped in the seat ,,,,,, it's also nice to have a decent climate control tho have to say the climate control never broke down on the chaviot ,,,,,,,,, window open ,,,,, window shut !!!!!!!!!

 

[SilliamWhale]

I treated myself to a 2008 Househam AR

Last year I could boast one of the cheapest application rates of anywhere in the country ,,,,,,,, allas that is no longer the case but I do have a much more comfy environment than before , tis nice to be sat on a comfy air seat rather than hitting the cab floor every time I jumped in the seat ,,,,,, it's also nice to have a decent climate control tho have to say the climate control never broke down on the chaviot ,,,,,,,,, window open ,,,,, window shut !!!!!!!!!

Which in a way is another good argument for trailed - comfort of tractors at a lower price (or lower cost maybe) and can also do other jobs.

 

[Mr Charisma]

Which in a way is another good argument for trailed - comfort of tractors at a lower price (or lower cost maybe) and can also do other jobs.

Had a trailed as I've mentioned before,,,,,,,,, not for me thanks

 

[Clive]

Seems a sensible option ,,,,,, best of both worlds at your finger tips then .

Tho it will be interesting to see if your dragged out of 'early retirement' to navigate the 'spare' machine ,
If regular servicing is undertaken I can't see why one of these machines isn't capable of many many thousand hours ,,,,,,, let's face it , there's a lot worse place to spend a day than sat in a rb 35

I agree, nothing much wrong with our rb35 at all other than its potential to generate bills fr some expensive parts now its 8k hrs old

the last 1000hrs (this year) have been pricey with several wheel motors and new x30 and a few other nasty bills and issues aat time critical moments where being without a sprayer was not ideal !

 

[Feldspar]

I agree, nothing much wrong with our rb35 at all other than its potential to generate bills fr some expensive parts now its 8k hrs old

the last 1000hrs (this year) have been pricey with several wheel motors and new x30 and a few other nasty bills and issues aat time critical moments where being without a sprayer was not ideal !

What went wrong with the X30? How old was it? I never quite know how long to assume the useful life of GPS equipment is.

 

[Clive]

What went wrong with the X30? How old was it? I never quite know how long to assume the useful life of GPS equipment is.

it was the old x20 it came with that went wrong and couldn't be repaired (9 years old) - it had to be replaced with a x30 and ecu - wasnt cheap like circa 7k IIRC

I would say 10 yrs is as much as you can expect eletronic kit to last or have useful life for - how many office PC's last that long and they work in much nicer environments !

I forgot but also bough new row crops and LGP tyres for it this year - that was another 10k to add to the list ! - its been a great machine and not cost a lot really over the years but this year tried to make up for that !

 

[dontknowanything]

When it comes to specialist kit like a sprayer you can't beat having direct access to the manufacturer

It's what works so brilliantly with Bateman - service, knowledge and back up that no multi franchise dealer can get close to imo

That's definitely true, but as said earlier, Horsch UK are bloody good and have always been on the phone for me, weekends, after hours etc. Not as good as factory direct, but better than a dealer.

 

[Foxcover]

Really? I've used a fair selection and found Mr Easterby's to have the correct geometry for tipping into the grader, low depreciation and running costs and sensible purchase price to be perfectly sufficient for the work we do (12months of the year!) ..and I'm not anywhere near fashionable enough for the fancy fandango super trailers that some like to drag about for a few weeks in the sunshine...I like to be able to see into a trailer for a start!!

Sounds like your trailers are better than the ones I saw at their open day 3 years ago that had gaps in the welding in the inside bottom corners where grain/muck could get trapped and start to rot, not to mention paint runs.
Sure they are probably up to the job but devil is in the detail.

 

[Alistair Nelson]

Sounds like your trailers are better than the ones I saw at their open day 3 years ago that had gaps in the welding in the inside bottom corners where grain/muck could get trapped and start to rot, not to mention paint runs.
Sure they are probably up to the job but devil is in the detail.

I wouldn't knock them at all. they would be incredibly hospitable to you at the open day and there customer service is the same nothing is too much trouble. We're all Easterby and wouldn't change Like spud they do all we want them to do at a price we can happily live with and we are dealing with people we like and trust.

In fact shot with a leading Lincs based manufacturer and wouldn't have one given as can't see how his customer service wouldn't be any different to his attitude on the day which was horrendous.

 

[Grass And Grain]

I treated myself to a 2008 Househam AR

I had a go in a chaviot (auto box). I could see it would travel lightly, but just couldn't come to terms with sitting in it for the whole season.

Will be interesting to see if you keep it in the back of the shed, or if the Househam will be good enough for travelling that you may as well sell the chaviot. No doubt you will wait for a wet season before deciding.

I'm on a budget, but want self propelled for same reasons as you (although I get all the valid reasons for trailed as well). Thinking a mid 90's Clayton buggi for us.

 

[Heathland]

Be careful in the wet with it, have worked a good bit on a farm with one and 1ft+ ruts for tramlines were the norm rather than exception on anything wet/clay. Sometimes the auto section craps its self and will stop spraying for about 50m.

I will be,at least it's got plenty of ground clearance,and as for dodgy section control ,I was used to that,as I often had sticking air valves on my last sprayer,at least now I can see where it has sprayed due to the gps mapping.

 

[MDA]

Marv, afaik, is selling drills again for Kuhn ( I seem to remember reading that in the Farmers Guide) These salesmen do seem to move around a fair bit!!

...and also the full range of mounted and trailed Kuhn sprayers. Very underrated machines I hear!!
http://www.kuhn.co.uk/uk/range/spraying.html

 

[Feldspar]

IMO it needs to be and probably will be but the LT offers a much more refined operation.

Can you explain what is better about the LT compared to the GS?

 

[Db880]

Can you explain what is better about the LT compared to the GS?

I can answer that one. A GS currently uses Muller electronics whereas an Lt uses Horsch electronics which are much more user friendly and have far more automated systems on it. Generally better to operate I would say. They tell me in time the GS will get Horsch electrics on as well.

 

[Feldspar]

I can answer that one. A GS currently uses Muller electronics whereas an Lt uses Horsch electronics which are much more user friendly and have far more automated systems on it. Generally better to operate I would say. They tell me in time the GS will get Horsch electrics on as well.

Thanks! Do you mind elaborating on how they are more user friendly and which systems are automated on the Horsch version?

 

[Feldspar]

Drawbar load on a full GS8000 is 4000 kg! Even with a 710 Xeobib this nearly puts the rear tyre loads off the chart.

 

[Db880]

Thanks! Do you mind elaborating on how they are more user friendly and which systems are automated on the Horsch version?

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