UV treatment sanitation

[Chickcatcher]

Is UV treatment of water enough or do others use further water sanitation into Broilers.
How dose one ascertain whether there is a need for added sanitation solutions into water supply?
All tests I have done indicate no pseudonyms in the incoming water. (perhaps pseudonyms is wrong word) but is there something that could arrest any cross contamination between birds using the nipple drinkers.
We do a through end of crop treatment with peracetic acid peroxide mix.
I suppose I am just thinking everyone else is doing something and I don't do enough.

 

[john1968]

You could contact Scotmas they could test water supply chemical and applicator all through crop I have used it it keeps water clean BUT did have litter problems could of been other reasons also the chemical was harsh on drinker rubbers. There is other companies offering similar

 

[chickens and wheat]

I use aquaclean, at 1:330000 at all times,except day before vaccine. Very good results

Used Chlorine dioxide previously ,did the job well but very corrosive to the pump

Also a flush out with normal diso at turnaround time.
Aquaclean is dosed into water using a 380 pump from dosing solutions

Kanters Aqua Clean Cleaner & Disinfectant - AFS Supplies

A powerful drinking system cleaner and disinfectant based on stabilised hydrogen peroxide enriched with a silver nitrate.

www.afssupplies.co.uk

Catalogue - Dosing Solutions

Dosing Solutions is dedicated to the development and manufacture of water dosing equipment

dosingsolutions.com

 

[Eggs and Things]

Is UV treatment of water enough or do others use further water sanitation into Broilers.

I was always told that for UV to be effective the waters had to be filtered to a very high standard, for two reasons.
1. Bacteria can be present on particles and the particles can shield the germs from the UV.
2. Tiny particles scratch and scour the inside of the UV housing which can cause the light to refract and so create areas in the where the water isn't treated properly.

No idea if there is any truth to any of that.
The one thing I am sure about when it comes to water filtering and treatment is that there are many people trying to sell me any amount of different ideas, all at outrageous mark ups, and often they know less about it than I do!

 

[Eggs and Things]

I use aquaclean, at 1:330000 at all times,except day before vaccine. Very good results

Do you mean 33 thousand to one?

 

[Eggs and Things]

You could contact Scotmas they could test water supply chemical and applicator all through crop I have used it it keeps water clean BUT did have litter problems could of been other reasons also the chemical was harsh on drinker rubbers. There is other companies offering similar

I have spoken to Scotmas. Certainly appear to know their stuff. But never bothered to phone me back despite repeated reminders!

 

[chickens and wheat]

Yes sorry put an extra zero 1: 33k

Chlorine dioxide was even less concentrated but cost more. I think i spent as much on pump repairs as i did on product. Mainly peristaltic pipes and one way valves. The chlorine solution was mixed with hydrocloric acid , the acid ate everything, especially stainless steel

 

[chickens and wheat]

These people sell a less corrosive form of chlorine dioxide.

XZIOX

Effective bactericide, fungicide, viricide and algaecide | Patented and approved worldwide including certified by DEFRA and NSF | Approved as a safe solution for treatment of water and by the DWI (Reg.31) for levels of human consumption.

www.iwatergroup.com

 

[Chickcatcher]

These people sell a less corrosive form of chlorine dioxide.

XZIOX

Effective bactericide, fungicide, viricide and algaecide | Patented and approved worldwide including certified by DEFRA and NSF | Approved as a safe solution for treatment of water and by the DWI (Reg.31) for levels of human consumption.

www.iwatergroup.com

They are one of 2 that I am in contact with.

 

[Eggs and Things]

My current thinking is a good filtration system with a cheap bacteriacide (sp) such hypochlorite. Might cost a little more to set up but very cheap ongoing cost.

 

[chickens and wheat]

Aquaclean isnt expensive at that low dose. Its fantastic peace of mind to see clean sight glasses and never finding dirty pipe internals during repair work.

When i first started dosing i drained the drinkers out after a week,the brown gunk that came out was shocking.
Never seen anything but clean water since. TVC water tests continue to prove its working
I was on what i thought was a good cleaning plan before that.

 

[Eggs and Things]

Peroxide isn't a great solution where there are high levels of manganese and iron. We find the biofilm still builds up.

 

[Eggs and Things]

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a sensor that monitors the chlorine levels in water in real time?
At a sensible price of course!

 

[chickens and wheat]

Probably better to filter out the manganese first, unless you are already doing so?

 

[Eggs and Things]

That's what I'm looking to do. A professional filtration system that is cheap to run is serious money. But then it would be easy to keep the water clean biologically.
High levels of manganese can have a laxative effect, so am wondering if taking this out would improve gut function.
I am also wondering if it is worth building a filtration system on farm before investing in a bought in unit. Something along the lines of gravel, sand and charcoal in IBCs.

 

[Chickcatcher]

Ok @chickens and wheat how do you get the administration at 33000-1? Dosatrons I have are 100-1 fixed

 

[chickens and wheat]

pump from dosing solutions , link above,. Either a pump per shed or one for the whole site depends on your plumbing.

 

[chickens and wheat]

The pump

 

[Chickcatcher]

Thanks, Could you do a wider piccy to show more of the pipework layout please? looking at my consumption last batch I would need 25Lts. Man contacting me Monday

 

[chickens and wheat]

Basically you get a water meter and a T piece, pump injects into T after receiving info from meter.
If doing all sheds be sure to get a big bore meter . My meter is tiny but ok for one shed.
T piece fitted before water tank,but after the outside tap.

I have 3 pumps across 5 sheds due to pipework constraints .
I can dose acid too if needed,a different peristaltic hose doses at 1000:1. Only takes a few minutes to convert.

At 1:33000 the dosing is so slow its hard to remember to check the drum isnt empty. Just get in habit of topping the drum up before each crop