VAT on cattle keep?

[KennyO]

Wintering a few cattle for someone. We feed and bed and supply silage. Charging x amount a week should I put vat on the invoice?

I never bother putting vat on sheep wintering but maybe i should be.

Thanks

 

[farmerdan7618]

Wintering a few cattle for someone. We feed and bed and supply silage. Charging x amount a week should I put vat on the invoice?

I never bother putting vat on sheep wintering but maybe i should be.

Thanks

Contract rearing standard rated for VAT, 20%

 

[Hampton]

Depends how you invoice it (for illustration only)
200 cattle x £4/week is vatable
Rent of shed at £800/week is not vatable

 

[farmerdan7618]

Depends how you invoice it (for illustration only)
200 cattle x £4/week is vatable
Rent of shed at £800/week is not vatable

Rent will get round the VAT, but gain you lots of other undesirables. I would say the VAT is a minor issue, as most likely reclaimed by the owner anyway.

 

[farmerdan7618]

As for the sheep, grasskeep is zero rated.

 

[Goweresque]

Split it up. £X for the fodder, £Y for the service charge for looking after them. Former non-vatable, latter vatable. And don't forget that the straw for bedding up is vatable too........

 

[KennyO]

No problem with vat. Owner will just claim it back. Just wondering what was correct. Thanks

 

[Derrick Hughes]

If you charge for bedding you will put vat on
But not on silage

 

[Zippy768]

Theres VAT on straw?

 

[farmerdan7618]

Theres VAT on straw?

For bedding yes, there is also VAT on silage if it is for a digester.

 

[Sid]

Theres VAT on straw?

Only if bedding not if fed

 

[Sid]

For bedding yes, there is also VAT on silage if it is for a digester.

Why it there vat on silage for digestor?

 

[Zippy768]

For bedding yes, there is also VAT on silage if it is for a digester.

Only if bedding not if fed

Ah of course

 

[d williams]

Wintering a few cattle for someone. We feed and bed and supply silage. Charging x amount a week should I put vat on the invoice?

I never bother putting vat on sheep wintering but maybe i should be.

Thanks

Yes definitely on cattle if your feeding them then your providing a service and therefore vat should be charged

 

[farmerdan7618]

Why it there vat on silage for digestor?

Zero rated applies to feedstuff for animals. Selling to a digester makes it a fuel, and hence VAT to be charged.

 

[Sid]

Zero rated applies to feedstuff for animals. Selling to a digester makes it a fuel, and hence VAT to be charged.

5%?

So do fuel tankers run on rebated fuel like tractors delivering to digestors?

 

[DRC]

Why it there vat on silage for digestor?

I have to charge vat on maize I grow for a digester.
contract reared dairy heifers for over 30 yrs and always charged VAT

 

[Exfarmer]

Is the owner VAT registered? If so charge him VAT on the lot. If not sort out all the little bits , such as rent, feed etc and charge VAT on the rest

 

[farmerdan7618]

5%?

So do fuel tankers run on rebated fuel like tractors delivering to digestors?

20% for commercial fuel. Don't think there is any rebated fuel for tankers, and the tractors should be on white for digester haulage work.

Of course it all goes round in a circle, and HMRC don't lose out on the VAT as it is reclaimed anyway. Hence not looking too hard at it.