Vulcan inspection loader question

[shepherdess]

Hello, we just had a Vulcan inspection and have had a fail on a few implements, (the attachments for the loader are missing) are missing the, “safe working load stickers”
2 we know makes, being a mc hale bail spikes, another a flat eight, which is a brown.. but the grab and bucket we’ve no idea on make, infact bucket might even be home made! Any idea where we get stickers? And how you get on when don’t know make?
We’ve been to local dealer and they don’t know either.. just seeing what others have done or know?
Many thanks

 

[multi power]

I've never ever seen a safe working load on a loader attachment, I'd question the need for them

 

[David.]

Who is insisting you use these comedians?

 

[Andrew]

Tell Vulcan to go away and not come back. Get someone else to do your LOLER inspections, Vulcan are a waste of space.

 

[Nearly]

Vulcan gave me a warning on the worn seat cushion and missed a crack in the boom.
Sack them.
@Dave W

 

[shepherdess]

I've never ever seen a safe working load on a loader attachment, I'd question the need for them

Nore have we tbh and or local dealer! I mean how can you on home made kit as well!! Which quite a bit of stuff can be home made! I’ve searched web and had no joy on any info their either, in short I guess they will imply it’s uninsurable or not allowed to be used without it

 

[shepherdess]

Who is insisting you use these comedians?

Their sent through nfu insurance part of their health and safety part I believe

 

[shepherdess]

Tell Vulcan to go away and not come back. Get someone else to do your LOLER inspections, Vulcan are a waste of space.

Sadly don’t think we can now they have done it, and another might be same!

 

[shepherdess]

Vulcan gave me a warning on the worn seat cushion and missed a crack in the boom.
Sack them.
@Dave W

Tractor they tested last year and passed we wouldn’t take on road as was orful!! And they passed that! was a back up tractor incase main loader tractor broke ever. Think in this case they have to find something to put on their form ?

 

[Bloders]

@Campbell can back me up here I think.
Having recently done my LOLER training, it is a requirment that the item you are inspecting has a SWL and a unique ID.
What it does not mandate is that the SWL is particularly accurate - if thats your only problem, id get some decals from somewhere that state "SWL - 1000 kgs"

There are many companies out there who can undertake LOLER inspections. The issue generally is lots of people dont understand the regs, and the NFU suggest someone who is able to issue the report (im not commenting on the inspection side of it)

 

[mengeleguru]

My understanding is that a loader doesn’t need a test .
It is removable & could be fitted to another tractor.
So that is two tractors & 1 loader ? .
Not like a loadall as a designed lifting machine and probably lifts a lot more weight , higher & further away.

 

[Andrew]

Sadly don’t think we can now they have done it, and another might be same!

Of course you can, you might have to pay again though. How much can the loader lift? Personally if it can lift a ton I’d weld ‘SWL-1T on the attachment somewhere and be done with it. They can obviously lift whatever the loader can otherwise they’d be broken by now.

 

[Drillman]

Vulcan couldn’t tell the difference between a safe and dangerous machine if there life depended on it. Passed my forklift apart from wear on a bush (which when taken apart to replace was perfect). But ignored the fact that all 4 track rods were worn. That was despite me asking them the question direct as I knew they were.

 

[ACEngineering]

Sadly don’t think we can now they have done it, and another might be same!

In future use farmers and Mercantile. You dont need to be insured with them to get a test. Anyone can book them.
And you certainly do not have to use Vulcan just because the nfu say so.

 

[ACEngineering]

Vulcan couldn’t tell the difference between a safe and dangerous machine if there life depended on it. Passed my forklift apart from wear on a bush (which when taken apart to replace was perfect). But ignored the fact that all 4 track rods were worn. That was despite me asking them the question direct as I knew they were.

Passed a jcb here with a snapped tilt ram pin in boom? hole in boom was knackered had to get it bore welded then line bored back to standard.

 

[vantage]

I think a lot depends on the inspector. Vulcan come here and the guy is very thorough and can’t see that he’s missed anything over the years.

 

[Dog&stick]

Had the manitou tested with them several (7/8) years have only had one inspector that I'd rate, others bunch of muppets, talking with nieghbours other week, with nfu aswell but use another local office, & they dont have machine's tested. As it's "not mandatory "

 

[Dog&stick]

You can get attachments id plates , VIN-PLATES.co.uk

 

[Bloders]

Had the manitou tested with them several (7/8) years have only had one inspector that I'd rate, others bunch of muppets, talking with nieghbours other week, with nfu aswell but use another local office, & they dont have machine's tested. As it's "not mandatory "

It is mandatory if you want to be insured for lifting activities.
If you dont undertake any lifting activities, or are not concerned about being insured for them, then you can avoid the inspections.
A person i know holds the franchise for an NFU office and he advised me one day that about "half" of farmers do and half do not.

 

[Mur Huwcun]

My understanding is that a loader doesn’t need a test .
It is removable & could be fitted to another tractor.
So that is two tractors & 1 loader ? .
Not like a loadall as a designed lifting machine and probably lifts a lot more weight , higher & further away.

Same understanding here. You could potentially have a loader boom inspected today on a 12month old perfectly maintained tractor with a SWL of 1500kg. Once the inspector is down the road the boom could be back on the old knackerd 2wd tractor that couldn’t manage a silage bale safel.