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I think the opposite. I refuse to stop wearing a poppy, but I get quite sick of the jingoism that now seems to go on.Sad you hear less and less about it in the media every year, disgrace it’s not being made a big deal of IMO
I think the opposite. I refuse to stop wearing a poppy, but I get quite sick of the jingoism that now seems to go on.
Last year, in my home village some locals projected an image of Churchill on the church, which I found particularly crass and lacking in solemnity, especially since all of my grandparents (who were the ww2 generation) and their contemporaries despised him.
In 2018, I sat through a baffling speech in an assembly (was teaching) from a history teacher ref WW1 (as it was the anniversary) about how those men "died for others freedom", when they didn't, which was kind of the point and why the poppy came into existence - they died needlessly in a squabble between queen Victorias descendants.
I think the service is very relevant and necessary, but knitted poppies stuck to trees, cut outs of "tommies" etc etc can feck off.
You did that before I edited to add the bit about Wilfrid Owen or Siegfried Sassoon, but that'll do. As would "The Green Fields of France"
I’ll put it another way then I think it’s a disgrace that each passing generation seems to care less and lessI think the opposite. I refuse to stop wearing a poppy, but I get quite sick of the jingoism that now seems to go on.
Last year, in my home village some locals projected an image of Churchill on the church, which I found particularly crass and lacking in solemnity, especially since all of my grandparents (who were the ww2 generation) and their contemporaries despised him.
In 2018, I sat through a baffling speech in an assembly (was teaching) from a history teacher ref WW1 (as it was the anniversary) about how those men "died for others freedom", when they didn't, which was kind of the point and why the poppy came into existence - they died needlessly in a squabble between queen Victorias descendants. In any conversation about WW1 on remembrance day, I expect Owen or Sassoon, not sabre rattling.
I think the service is very relevant and necessary, but knitted poppies stuck to trees, cut outs of "tommies" etc etc can feck off.
I suppose it's because they are further and further from the odd historical phenomenon that was "total war" in the early 20th century - wars have gone back to being things that are fought in lands far away by professional soldiers as opposed to mass fighting involving hastily trained citizens.I’ll put it another way then I think it’s a disgrace that each passing generation seems to care less and less
Its almost unimaginable, I think - and then there's nations we never seem to talk about, like the 14 million Chinese who died in ww2.Still hard to get your head around the numbers of lives lost
And all those that gave their lives would really be wondering what for with these generations and woke views etc etc ???☹I’ll put it another way then I think it’s a disgrace that each passing generation seems to care less and less
Caught the tail end of a programme on bbc 4 earlier showing the lads marching at the end of the war I said to the wife just imagine they could see what’s become of Britain and the world nowAnd all those that gave their lives would really be wondering what for with these generations and woke views etc etc ???
Well, given that both my grandads (both fought) were at one time or another members of the communist party.....And all those that gave their lives would really be wondering what for with these generations and woke views etc etc ???☹
I’ll put it another way then I think it’s a disgrace that each passing generation seems to care less and less
Very moving poem .