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Not that it matters but isn't the 2680 147 hp ?Mf 2680 cheap as chips prob 5k fix with hammer 130bhp big draft tractor what more do you want
Not that it matters but isn't the 2680 147 hp ?Mf 2680 cheap as chips prob 5k fix with hammer 130bhp big draft tractor what more do you want
As in tow the wagon with a telehandler?Do this but then move them around with the loader. Someone do it so I can copy!
What ever one has the turbo intercooler is 147 but I'm not entirely sure what modelI always thought that, it’s turbo 6354 only 130 bhp the 2720 is 147 bhp
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Massey-F...806371?hash=item1a7d44bc63:g:pU8AAOSwqYJc9T6QWhat ever one has the turbo intercooler is 147 but I'm not entirely sure what model
Mechanic doesn’t think so easily and I think the issue may be that there is just not enough oil there
Yep. Just round the yard with remote control for the door and belt etc?!?!?As in tow the wagon with a telehandler?
You'd ruin the handler pretty fast I'd imagineYep. Just round the yard with remote control for the door and belt etc?!?!?
2 wheel drive IH 965/1056 if you can find oneneed to find something to sit on the wagon. Cheap cheerful and easy to fix with hammers and swearing. Any ideas? Bought a same tiger but not enough oil to drive the belt. Absolutely gutted.
Needs to be 100+ horse preferably closer to 130hp. 30 cube wagon so fair pull on it.
How reliable are old fastracs? Mx would be perfect but like hens teeth.
2 wheel drive IH 965/1056 if you can find oneneed to find something to sit on the wagon. Cheap cheerful and easy to fix with hammers and swearing. Any ideas? Bought a same tiger but not enough oil to drive the belt. Absolutely gutted.
Needs to be 100+ horse preferably closer to 130hp. 30 cube wagon so fair pull on it.
How reliable are old fastracs? Mx would be perfect but like hens teeth.
2 wheel drive IH 965/1056 if you can find one
Come on, big wagons have 2 speed boxes and the hand lever pto clutch was a great thing. The engines were pretty bomb proof too if looked after. Sure 4 wheel drive maybe necessary if ice is an issue. In which case, a JD or good old TW/TM might fit the bill. I once used a 22 m3 wagon on an old TW 30! No problem. Perhaps I’m thinking too far back!!105hp. Really? With a dual dry clutch with a [heavy and stiff] hand lever for the PTO clutch? For a behemoth wagon? Even the OP agrees it will need to be 4wd. It will be doing 250-300 hours a year, which is not insubstantial for an antique tractor from the 1980's. How long would you expect the PTO clutch to last on such an underpowered tractor? Which of the two coupled machines would be master on the other?
You do realise that this is a 30 cube wagon you expect to use with 105hp compared to your specific example of a 22 cube behind a 188hp [177 net iirc] tractor?Come on, big wagons have 2 speed boxes and the hand lever pto clutch was a great thing. The engines were pretty bomb proof too if looked after. Sure 4 wheel drive maybe necessary if ice is an issue. In which case, a JD or good old TW/TM might fit the bill. I once used a 22 m3 wagon on an old TW 30! No problem. Perhaps I’m thinking too far back!!
If its a Tiger6 then the external services oil comes from the gearbox. The three point linkage is self contained and has a separate reservoir and pump.
It is a simple gear pump and really should be adequate at 60 litres a minute max flow. Beware that the JD 3050 and most other 40 and 50 series tractors will have LESS oil flow than the Tiger and the flow will be further reduced when you turn the steering.
If the Tiger's gear pump is worn or it is fitted with a 45lpm gear pump, it might be possible to fairly cheaply upgrade to a higher flow pump. I'm not entirely sure about that on the Tiger, because its pump is mounted at the front of the engine if I remember correctly, while Laser models have it on the side of the gearbox.
Have you actually checked the flow and pressure of the pump? Given it a proper health check rather than guess? Have you cleaned the filters, including the big canister and changed the spin-on one?
Tiger really is getting on a bit in age. Nearly 40 years of age for goodness' sake! It's a wonder that it hasn't been eaten up by oxides or recycled by now.
Also, it is underpowered for this job. You need 150hp approx. Something far bigger and more powerful than a poor little antique Tiger.
If you can justify a wagon that size then you will have to justify a matching tractor and fuel to run it, plus the inevitable maintenance/repair costs of both items.
I don’t know how big our wagons are but you can get about 28000lbs on them max. A 140hp? 7430 can’t start it loaded and can’t pull it while pto is on over 3.5mph.
One of them is run by a 7810 JD and the other is on a 7200R JD. The 7810 is maxed out, I wouldn’t want to go any smaller. The pto clutches are the biggest weak point as we start fully loaded most days.
When you commit to a wagon you need to be committed to having a good reliable machine on the front or it’s nothing but a headache. Scrambling around swapping tractors, getting parts overnighted etc etc adds up.
I hadn’t read the OP properly. For a 30 I’d say at least 180/200 to be on top of the whole job, so forget my ideas!You do realise that this is a 30 cube wagon you expect to use with 105hp compared to your specific example of a 22 cube behind a 188hp [177 net iirc] tractor?