Which 200hp tractor for 35-40k

[daveydiesel1]

Got a mf6499 & 7620 here both with dyna 6 box. One on 7000hrs and other on 11000 and touch wood had no gearbox problems. Both good tractors. 99 pulls like a train and handles the mowers no problem. Pretty good steering lock on them both aswel.

Yeah our 6499 is on 650/540s and has fantastic steerin lock. Dead handy tractor. Would put her in front o any similar nh anyday

 

[michael N123]

Looks a decent tractor. My only concern is that they are a lot bigger tractors physically than our 6080 or the 820. The gateways round here and lanes are made for small tractors so it’s right at best of times.

widen the gates

 

[JamesC]

widen the gates

We used to have lots of 10ft gates, let's just say since having a 26ft bale trailer all said gates and associated posts have long gone ?

 

[Farmer mk1]

I can’t afford to put new gates on all the farmers fields we go through lol. I’d be bankrupt after the first farm lol. I’d like a t7.200 and tweak it to 200hp on the shaft as long as it wouldn’t pull the gearbox out of it on a 16t silage trailer. I’ve always looked at the 6499 tier 2 and liked them a lot just could never justify the extra power and size until now

 

[JamesC]

I can’t afford to put new gates on all the farmers fields we go through lol. I’d be bankrupt after the first farm lol. I’d like a t7.200 and tweak it to 200hp on the shaft as long as it wouldn’t pull the gearbox out of it on a 16t silage trailer. I’ve always looked at the 6499 tier 2 and liked them a lot just could never justify the extra power and size until now

T7 200 would be 200 on the shaft anyway under the right conditions, so surely when those conditions are met it wouldn't damage the box. But with 16t trailer it would push you around I think.. step up to T7 220 would be better, nearly 2t heavier tractor to boss it.

 

[del_boy]

I can’t afford to put new gates on all the farmers fields we go through lol. I’d be bankrupt after the first farm lol. I’d like a t7.200 and tweak it to 200hp on the shaft as long as it wouldn’t pull the gearbox out of it on a 16t silage trailer. I’ve always looked at the 6499 tier 2 and liked them a lot just could never justify the extra power and size until now

We're remapped both a t7200 auto command and a t7210 power command. The 200 is 210hp at shaft and the 210 is 235hp. Both preform well lugging 16t root trailers about

 

[Speedstar]

150hp tractors on double mower conditioners are common around here. Our 180hp 6480 is a decent match for our mowers even on steep ground can do 18k.

You must be on flat land with the conditioner doing nothing to the grass and must be light crop is all I can say

 

[Farmer mk1]

T7.200 will be like 155 on the shaft. On full boost they will get to 180hp but you never get full boost until it’s too late and then your down the gearbox and it’s cut the boost as you dropped down the gears. We want 200hp for the square baler and mowers mainly but I don’t want the hp to Damage the trans when it’s towing trailers. Our trailers have good brakes so hopefully it won’t push too much and the roads here aren’t good enough to do 50k so I’d hope it would be ok.

 

[fiat 9090]

There's a local lad runs triples on his 7618 for a contractor, and from the snapchats there is no shortage of power. I'd bet it is remapped an not standard

a heavy crop of grass on a hill at 10 k will need double the power doing a light cut on flat ground at 8kph so not a fair comparison

 

[stevedave]

You must be on flat land with the conditioner doing nothing to the grass and must be light crop is all I can say

We ran two mowers on a T7.185 for a couple of years and doing some big crops with no problems. We then went to a T7.200 and now on a Claas 660 which more power but similar to the NH on boost and we don't feel the need for much more power, but my mowers are Pottengers which are sh!t aren't they?

 

[daveydiesel1]

If you buy a small tractor and remap it it is gonna be under lot more pressure than the larger wheelbase models regardless of brand, contractor friend bought t7 210 second hand 2years ago to drive 2 mowers and it has totally broke his heart says next time hel buy bigger tractor and not an nh

 

[Boohoo]

If you buy a small tractor and remap it it is gonna be under lot more pressure than the larger wheelbase models regardless of brand, contractor friend bought t7 210 second hand 2years ago to drive 2 mowers and it has totally broke his heart says next time hel buy bigger tractor and not an nh

He got a bad one that hadn't been looked after or he went too far with the remap. I've had 2 mowers on TM155s without issue and the high hour 6080 I mentioned earlier ran a set of butterflies at times

 

[daveydiesel1]

He got a bad one that hadn't been looked after or he went too far with the remap. I've had 2 mowers on TM155s without issue and the high hour 6080 I mentioned earlier ran a set of butterflies at times

Another localish contractor had a tm 140 shuttle command do all the mowing with butterflies for few years. Never seen a tm that could go like it but doubt it would last doin that power

 

[Boohoo]

Another localish contractor had a tm 140 shuttle command do all the mowing with butterflies for few years. Never seen a tm that could go like it but doubt it would last doin that power

It will have had more than just the 6mm spanner treatment. A 155 I used to drive had been doctored in other ways and was an absolute animal, you couldn't kill it. It didn't even sound like a TM.

 

[cider_eater]

I noticed some on here are having trouble with their Gear boxes
With experience, The thing is : lot of it is how it is handled!

 

[Wellytrack]

It will have had more than just the 6mm spanner treatment. A 155 I used to drive had been doctored in other ways and was an absolute animal, you couldn't kill it. It didn't even sound like a TM.

Sounded like a Scania V8 and a Jet Engine?

 

[Deerefarmer]

I noticed some on here are having trouble with their Gear boxes
With experience, The thing is : lot of it is how it is handled!

This^^^

Obviously if you are ripping up gearboxes tractor isn't big enough or it's being abused... doesn't make any sense to me why someone would buy less hp than you need then remap engine and worry about gearbox.
What manufacturer even makes a 200 hp tractor that can't pull 16 t loads all day long uphill??
If that's the nature of a mechanical gearbox why even buy one? We pull 30 plus tonnes, (I converted it for you) all day long 1500 to 2000 hrs per year across several 265 pto hp tractors with vario trans, no trouble til 12k hrs.
And yes we have hills. That's why we are in business.... we go everywhere the trucks can't go and then some.

(I heard you snickering @Kiwi Pete)

 

[Boohoo]

Sounded like a Scania V8 and a Jet Engine?

Thankfully not, more like a Case MX.

 

[madscientist]

You must be on flat land with the conditioner doing nothing to the grass and must be light crop is all I can say

There is crops of grass and crops off grass. I marvel at @150hp tractors mowing with 2 mowers. Mounted must be easier driven than trailed. My pottinger 310T murders my 90 hp 4 cyl in mid June 1st cut in n.ireland. @Speedstar you have been disappointed with some of your Massey's. Contracting is a tough life on tractors. Transmissions just aren't upto the strain 50k and overweight tractors. 40k don't give as much grief. Particularly robotised shifters. They are forced in ready or not. Local contractor I know is deutz. Changes tractors when warranty up. I'd count them strong tractors being a Steyr 9145 chassis. Zf built. Again robot shifters now. He has more than 1 transmission failure every season. Young pilots have no mercy. Manufacture Field testing NOT the same as 17year old busy season testing!

 

[Pringles]

I must be doing something wrong!!

Cut a few acres each year with a front and trailed rear mo-co, both 10 foot, pulled by a Massey 5480. Which is a 135hp four cylinder tractor.

I have never had a customer complain that I was going too slow!!!

But we are cutting grass not dockens as they are a bit tougher to chew through.

Sometimes cut with the 6480 and so far not managed to destroy the gearbox.

@MarkT5 Speedy’s usual tosh about not being able to run 2

mowers with a 7618 is just that!

If you are happy with what you are used to with NH then I would stick with them.