Woodheads

[copse]

Just had email from them wanting to know our farm carbon footprint. Has anyone else had it?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Yes.

 

[copse]

How do we work it out?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

I deleted the email which solved the problem

 

[Loftyrules]

It's a bit of a minefield, there are various different calculators out there taking into account different aspects of the farm, from cultivation techniques, active ingredients used to areas of concrete and building types, and as there is no industry standard you would probably get a different result from each one.
https://www.farmcarbontoolkit.org.uk/ is one or https://coolfarmtool.org/ is another

 

[delilah]

Google tells me that Woodheads supply Morrisons is that right ? Then this will have come from Morrisons.

I would suggest that anyone being asked to provide their farms carbon footprint, email them back pointing out that all the problems re co2 emissions are the other side of the farm gate from you. Tell them that you will show them yours if they show you theirs, ie if Morrisons can show you a carbon calculation for all of their retail/distribution/ operations, then you will give it a study before deciding whether to calculate yours.

I really wouldn't go down the line of trying to work it out. Thin end of a very thick wedge. If you buy in to it now, it will be red tractor all over again; a stick to hit you with, with no reward.

 

[David.]

RP tried this about 5 yrs ago, purely on a voluntary basis. I never got very excited about it.

 

[Top Tip.]

Google tells me that Woodheads supply Morrisons is that right ? Then this will have come from Morrisons.

I would suggest that anyone being asked to provide their farms carbon footprint, email them back pointing out that all the problems re co2 emissions are the other side of the farm gate from you. Tell them that you will show them yours if they show you theirs, ie if Morrisons can show you a carbon calculation for all of their retail/distribution/ operations, then you will give it a study before deciding whether to calculate yours.

I really wouldn't go down the line of trying to work it out. Thin end of a very thick wedge. If you buy in to it now, it will be red tractor all over again; a stick to hit you with, with no reward.

Totally agree ,dangerous road to go down . I would be pointing out that we sequestrate carbon and do not have a footprint as we are actually carbon negative. Can they say the same?

 

[hally]

One thing I could guarantee is that all of us will be more carbon neutral than Morrison’s.....cheeky barstewards

 

[tepapa]

What would happen if you replied, yes that's fine but I have enclosed an invoice for £1500+vat for this information.
Do you think they will pay up?

 

[delilah]

Totally agree ,dangerous road to go down . I would be pointing out that we sequestrate carbon and do not have a footprint as we are actually carbon negative. Can they say the same?

And there you have the absolute travesty of it. We - ie our national representative bodies - should be shouting from the rooftops about PP being the most stable, long term carbon store we have in the UK.
Instead, they - the NFU, the AHDB - continue to apologize for the industries environmental impact, saying that there are less cows than there were, that we will try breeding them to produce less methane blah blah. They want sacking the lot of them.

 

[Celt83]

I deleted the email which solved the problem

That answer deserves more than just one haha!

 

[Woolless]

Might be an interesting exercise to do if you have time (and use the correct data/online calculator) but I wouldn't be in a hurry to share it with a processor. Next thing they'll be asking for your cost of production.

 

[Top Tip.]

Might be an interesting exercise to do if you have time (and use the correct data/online calculator) but I wouldn't be in a hurry to share it with a processor. Next thing they'll be asking for your cost of production.

Well I have done a carbon audit on the farm but it isn’t worth the paper it’s written on because I am not allowed to offset any of the carbon produced with what I am sequestrating. It was done through the beef efficiency scheme.

 

[Woolless]

Well I have done a carbon audit on the farm but it isn’t worth the paper it’s written on because I am not allowed to offset any of the carbon produced with what I am sequestrating. It was done through the beef efficiency scheme.

Right, I've never tried it but if that is the case then you're right, don't bother.

 

[smallholder99]

they probably already know all of your business anyway, to get your cattle results same day you have to change your google user account on your computer to their farmline account which means they have access to everything on your computer,or you got to wait a week and pay for a paper invoice

 

[steveR]

they probably already know all of your business anyway, to get your cattle results same day you have to change your google user account on your computer to their farmline account which means they have access to everything on your computer,or you got to wait a week and pay for a paper invoice

Really??

Sounds like a rather surprising invasion of privacy, if true....

 

[4course]

a bit of research shows that grass can sequestrate 15tons of co2/acre which equates to 4 ton of carbon so as each acre produces less than 15 t of anything reckon most farms will be absorbing more than they are giving out

 

[Loftyrules]

they probably already know all of your business anyway, to get your cattle results same day you have to change your google user account on your computer to their farmline account which means they have access to everything on your computer,or you got to wait a week and pay for a paper invoice

I doubt very much that this is true

 

[Loadabullocks]

And there you have the absolute travesty of it. We - ie our national representative bodies - should be shouting from the rooftops about PP being the most stable, long term carbon store we have in the UK.
Instead, they - the NFU, the AHDB - continue to apologize for the industries environmental impact, saying that there are less cows than there were, that we will try breeding them to produce less methane blah blah. They want sacking the lot of them.

Couldn't agree more.

I wonder is there something to be said for the fact that we moan about our carbon footprint not being accurately represented however we are not willing to reply to said emails and/or letters in an attempt to correct the presumption!