Worm eggs

[beardface]

Are these nemo or something else?

 

[scatterbrainedlass]

Don't think nemo, a roundworm type larvae possibly?

 

[beardface]

Been a couple of months since I did a sample under the microscope so getting my eye in again. Thinking on it thry look more like strongyle types to me now. Got about 200 epg in one group and 300 epg in another. But cocci is high around 4000 epg. Buckets are out and tbh there's only half dozen if that in each group that are mucky bum with maybe 2 in each showing visible scour. Think I'll double up the buckets and risk the worms for a few more days and maybe do them when I shear ewes to save a gather.

 

[GreenerGrass]

Strongyle or Trichstrongyle I think.

It's so dry, wouldn't have thought worms or cocci would be a big challenge provided not grazing grass super tight?

 

[Tim W]

Looks like strongyle from here---
Just FEC'd the different groups today and no sign of nemo (yet)
Startling difference between Charollais and Exlana FEC (same field/same management since last October)
Exlana = 210 epg
Charollais= 2160 epg

 

[Woolless]

Been a couple of months since I did a sample under the microscope so getting my eye in again. Thinking on it thry look more like strongyle types to me now. Got about 200 epg in one group and 300 epg in another. But cocci is high around 4000 epg. Buckets are out and tbh there's only half dozen if that in each group that are mucky bum with maybe 2 in each showing visible scour. Think I'll double up the buckets and risk the worms for a few more days and maybe do them when I shear ewes to save a gather.

Cocci can be non-pathogenic, it depends on the species. But identifying the species is a specialist job. That's not a Nemo egg to my eye.

 

[neilo]

Another vote for Strongyle. Not nemo anyway, they are bigger, darker and look like a bag of dark balls.

 

[neilo]

Looks like strongyle from here---
Just FEC'd the different groups today and no sign of nemo (yet)
Startling difference between Charollais and Exlana FEC (same field/same management since last October)
Exlana = 210 epg
Charollais= 2160 epg

If the Charollais are that high a FEC, do they not look like cr*p in themselves? I would expect any sheep that was that high to look 'wormy', and likely to have done so for a while.

 

[Tim W]

If the Charollais are that high a FEC, do they not look like cr*p in themselves? I would expect any sheep that was that high to look 'wormy', and likely to have done so for a while.

No , they look ok
I re did the FEC I was so amazed at the difference
This was pre moving to fresh grass so I will see if it changes next week

 

[beardface]

Cocci can be non-pathogenic, it depends on the species. But identifying the species is a specialist job. That's not a Nemo egg to my eye.

Yeh I'm not too worried about the cocci count as there's the usual amount showing signs. As I said not done a count for a bit and getting my eye in again. Just looked a little different to the ones I've seen before.

 

[muleman]

Are people finding nematodirus a bit late starting this year?

 

[neilo]

Are people finding nematodirus a bit late starting this year?

According to all the expert forecasts we’re supposed to go by, most of the country was very high risk about a fortnight ago iirc.

 

[muleman]

According to all the expert forecasts we’re supposed to go by, most of the country was very high risk about a fortnight ago iirc.

Yes well i looked on that 'scops' thing and it gives my area, Cumbria, high risk but my lambs are clean and lookin well, would normally be getting challenged by now, just wondered if maybe too dry this time?

 

[neilo]

Yes well i looked on that 'scops' thing and it gives my area, Cumbria, high risk but my lambs are clean and lookin well, would normally be getting challenged by now, just wondered if maybe too dry this time?

Same here. Lambs need to be grazing at that time though, so anything under 4-6weeks will miss the mass hatch with luck. I’ve (white) drenched my March born lambs over the last 10 days, but only as they were in for TE bolus and trailering away to other land. Nothing particularly dirty in them.

 

[Northern territory]

Had a few later born lambs with a bit of cocci I think but nothing else yet. Grass growth is dire here, had a good bite after winter but no growth since.

 

[Devil's advocate]

Are these nemo or something else?

I'm most impressed by your abilty with a microscope.

Have you got something connected to your computer. Always hated peering down at slides.

Mine are unusually clean apart from cades & any lambs on poor milking mothers. I'm putting that down to cocci, only guessing though.

We've missed almost all the rain for 10 weeks now, just drizzle one afternoon a month ago. I suppose a bit of dew in the morning could be enougth for worms????

 

[beardface]

I'm most impressed by your abilty with a microscope.

Have you got something connected to your computer. Always hated peering down at slides.

Mine are unusually clean apart from cades & any lambs on poor milking mothers. I'm putting that down to cocci, only guessing though.

We've missed almost all the rain for 10 weeks now, just drizzle one afternoon a month ago. I suppose a bit of dew in the morning could be enougth for worms????

Managed to line up my phone camera withe lens. But it's a fantastic phone camera. The zoomed to crop it and sharpened it up.

Mine are generally doing well no scald yet bugger all joint ill and usual amount of scour. Just these two groups I checked which had a decent shower in the last fortnight. Not enough to boost grass growth, but thinking enough to boost cocci growth. Looks like I'll have been on the right side of the nemo peak again this year.

I'm sure a June monsoon will bring all the usual nasties out of the parched soil though.

 

[hubbahubba]

Much nemo yet in scotland? Does cold nights and lack of rain delay the hatch? Scops have been saying moderate risk for a while now much lambs born mid march look very good and are on very little grass.

 

[Highland Mule]

Lack of rain? I’ve been trying to get a dry day here for a fortnight to no avail. No sign of nemo here, and only a couple of lambs with anything like a dirty rear, but I did give a bunch a dose of white wormer today in anticipation of a warmer few days ahead and the possibility of the hatch coming.

 

[Woolless]

Planning to have a look at a couple of dung samples on Monday, with a view to dosing when at home again later in the week. Largely dry and cold here until very recently, so they may not need drenched yet. Will be interesting to get an actual FEC, though.